RE: Centaurea, Cephalaria, and Who-Knows-What


I would also add the cephalaria flowers is quite a bit larger than the
scabiosa.  But quite similar, yes.

Susan Saxton, zone 6b

For mine is a little old-fashioned garden where the flowers come
together to praise the Lord and teach all who look upon them to do
likewise.
Celia Thaxter

I AM in shape.  ROUND is a shape!


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marilyn Dube [m*@teleport.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 1999 10:48 PM
> To: perennials@mallorn.com
> Subject: RE: Centaurea, Cephalaria, and Who-Knows-What
> 
> 
> Hi Don,  Just read this message and I looked at the photos.  
> My Cephalaria
> gigantea flower is definitely like photo #2.  I do not 
> recognize photo #1.
> I think what you have described as very finely divided 
> foliage, 3 ft. tall
> and with the creamy yellow scabiosa flower is Scabiosa 
> ochroleuca rather
> than Cephalaria gigantea.  The 2 have identical flowers, but 
> the foliage and
> the height are very different.  The Cephalaria foliage is 
> large and coarsely
> divided and the plant in bloom is 6-8'.  I hope this helps.
> Marilyn Dube'
> Natural Design Plants
> Hardy Perennials, Choice Tropicals
> Portland, OR   Zone 8b
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	owner-perennials@mallorn.com 
> [owner-perennials@mallorn.com] On
> Behalf Of Don 
> Martinson
> Sent:	Friday, July 23, 1999 8:35 AM
> To:	perennials@mallorn.com
> Subject:	Centaurea, Cephalaria, and Who-Knows-What
> 
> >Hi Susan,    I am wondering if the above listed Centaurea 
> gigantea could be
> >Cephalaria gigantea.
> 
> Marilyn,
> 
> Well, now I'm confused (at least more than normal).  I have 
> blooming in my
> yard, a plant that I had labeled Cephalaria gigantea.  Photo at:
> http://www.execpc.com/~llmen/unk4.jpg
> 
> However, from your description, C. gigantea is the following plant:
> http://www.execpc.com/~llmen/cephgig.jpg   (foliage very 
> finely divided, my
> plant ~3ft tall)
> 
> So what is the first one?  The flowers are like Doronicum 
> (which I know is
> isn't) or Inula.
> 
> I still don't have an ID on the following from earlier in the week:
> http://www.execpc.com~llmen/unk2.jpg
> 
> Any good ID experts out there?
> 
> Don
> 
> Don Martinson
> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin (Milwaukee suburb)
> USDA Zone 5 (-10 to -20F)
> AHS Heat Zone #4,  Map at:
> (  http://www.suite101.com/userfiles/79/hz1024.jpg )
> 
l*@execpc.com




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