RE: Mailing lists???? Long!


OK, I'll bite - I don't understand this post, and I am wondering about its significance. Would anyone care to expound on this, and explain it in greater detail?

-----Original Message-----
From:	B. Luby [SMTP:bjluby@avalon.nf.ca]
Sent:	Saturday, June 13, 1998 6:12 PM
To:	perennials@mallorn.com
Subject:	Mailing lists???? Long!

At 10:11 AM 13/06/98 -0700, you wrote:
>At 02:11 AM 6/13/98 EDT, WHTROS@aol.com wrote:
>>G'day, Everyone --
>>Do any of you know if the seeds/propagation mailing list still active??
>>I haven't gotten anything from that list for a long time.
>>Tried to re-subscribe to but don't seem to be getting through.
>>It's still listed with Mallorn Archived Email Lists.

There seems to be a sharing of mailing list by Mallorn Computing.
Are other subscribers aware of this? 
Sorry about the truncation, it is not my doing.

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Even more disconcerting, we have discovered that a "Mallorn Computing"
                                                    ^^^^^^^
company has established on the Internet a web site at which Alpine-L
postings are made available to anyone the day after they appear on
Alpine-L.  These reprints appear under the rubric "Mallorn Computing:
                                                   ^^^^^^^
Horticultural Lists", making our authors' messages appear to have been
posted originally by Mallorn.  The A*****L source headers have been largely
                     ^^^^^^^
stripped away.  There is little indication that these "Mallorn Computing:
                                                       ^^^^^^^
Horticultural Lists" ever appeared on A-L.  Outrageous!
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taken.  We have received a conciliatory letter (reprinted in OH900-4,
below) from a Mallorn representative, pointing our the advantages of
              ^^^^^^^
having a searchable website amalgam of ALL garden mailinglists.  The fact
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The current TEAM members are on http://www.mallorn.com/lists  I dont own
                                           ^^^^^^^
mallorn, I just beleive in the proposed project and understand the
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rewards for the internet users. I want the public to know, I am a team player
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OH900-4.  A Letter from [the] Mallorn Computing [company]:
                              ^^^^^^^

The following letter has been received from the Chief Executive Officer of
Mallorn Computing; it was sent to the members of Alpine-L's Copyright
^^^^^^^
Committee, whose names most likely were forwarded to Mr. Lindsey by
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From: Christopher Lindsey <lindsey@mallorn.com>
                                   ^^^^^^^
Subject: A-L copyright
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I was unaware that you were also involved in the complications resulting
from Mallorn Computing's hypermail archive.  Here is a note that was
     ^^^^^^^                       ^^^^^^^
sent out to several other list owners two days ago.  Please accept my
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I did not intend to make the archives that I am keeping of various mailing
                             ^^^^^^^
lists public without the approval of the representative list's owner.
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announced, but sure enough, there was a link to it from the page for
the mailing list that I maintain (prairie@mallorn.com).
                                          ^^^^^^^

Anyhow, the archives were originally generated so that multiple people
            ^^^^^^^
within my company could browse the archives without having so many
                                   ^^^^^^^
different subscriptions to the mailing list.  Eventually I was hoping
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mailing lists and others are nosing about to see what's up.  I have no
problems whatsoever with keeping these archives public, and actually would
                                       ^^^^^^^
encourage it.  I have trimmed down the list of available mailing lists to
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Please let me know if you would like your lists to be added or removed
from this archive.  It isn't meant to supercede any existing archives,
          ^^^^^^^
but rather to compliment.  I really think that this could be an invaluable
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Christopher Lindsey                             lindsey@mallorn.com
                                                        ^^^^^^^
CEO / President
Mallorn Computing
^^^^^^^

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members of the Copyright Committee, or to A-L-Request@nic.surfnet.com
At the present time, Mallorn Computing is publishing the full text of all of
                     ^^^^^^^
A-L's daily postings without having asked anyone's permission, let
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To: A-L the Electronic Rock Garden Society 
CC: lindsey@mallorn.com, mcalpin@eskimo.com
            ^^^^^^^
Subject: Re: Alpine Reference Literature

Did you know that A-l could archive this mailing list, it would
                                 ^^^^^^^
provide an abundant amount of resources which no one could compare.

My son has allowed Mallorn Horticultural Computing Systems to archive
                   ^^^^^^^                                    ^^^^^^^
his Propagation Mailing list on their server. Other garden mailing list
are following the same footsteps as a single source URL to review garden
mailing list on the NET.  In the future Mallorn plans on having a
                                        ^^^^^^^
searchable engine to scan only the garden mailing list to find your
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I am just learning so much by reading all these Alpine-l posting and now
I have found a new resource. Hopefully A-l will archive their
                                                     ^^^^^^^
mailing list on Mallorn in the future. If not, it is only a loss to
                ^^^^^^^
those reader trying to understand about that specific species they are
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Outsiders could only read and post a reply response to the subject
author. Give it a try and review the current members of Mallorn
                                                        ^^^^^^^
Horticultural Computing Systems: http://www.mallorn.com/lists
                                            ^^^^^^^

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