Re: Climbing roses

SECK138@aol.com wrote:
> 
> New Dawn is very hardy in zone 6 - and believe me I don't baby my roses at all
> either.  That is why I love it prolific flowering, disease resistant, not
> prone to black spot or mildew.  You could find out whether it is hardy to zone
> 4.  Chris Braintree Z6  If you have suggestions on other roses that are as
> hardy and do well in not full sun locations I would really appreciate it.

Thanks Chris.  I've heard enough about New Dawn that I think I'll try it next 
year.  I don't know about roses for the shade because none of mine are in shaded 
areas.  The only exception is all along the house on the north side (with trees, 
ZERO sun) there are some sort of old shrub rose that will survive nuclear wars 
I'm sure.  I'd guess they're related to rugosas and are your plain old prairie 
rose-- spread with runners, bloom once in early summer, light pink or white 
doubles with a nice scent.  My neighbor tried to kill them for years and they 
could care less.  In a fit of stupidity when we first moved here I transplanted 5 
little runners along a walk in the back and 2 years later I keep them sheared to 
5 feet! I don't really recommend them other than as barriers to kids and dogs 
though.  I'm spoiled and like more than one bloom unless it knocks your socks 
off.
You might try Therese Bugnet in part shade.  Nothing else seems to deter that one 
and it's big and bloomy enough to take a little stunting without any notice.  
I've heard that any rose will live in shade, you just sacrifice a bit of size and 
bloom.
Two roses that are supposed to be hardy and were even wimpier than my normal teas 
were Queen Elizabeth and Iceburg.  It could have been me though...
Alicia, zone 4 boonies

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