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Re: Roundup Effects


Thanks Austen for the info on Roundup.  We are also considering using
Roundup here in Victoria, B.C., Canada to restore our Garry Oak meadows.
(We have a severe problem with invasive grasses).  Most of the research in
favour of Roundup has been done by Monsanto...  I think burning, rather than
spraying,  would be a better solution for us.  

Patty Thomas 

  
At 10:43 AM 10/19/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi folks,
>
>I have been asking some questions about Roundup
>for some time and have had concerns about its use
>but was always told it was safe.
>
>Until last year, we used Ivomec on our bison, but
>when the dung beetles showed up one year, then
>dissapeared for 2 years after we used Ivomec, we
>decided to stop using it, went to a wromer safe
>for lactating dairy cows and they came back. Also,
>we have a lot more crickets than before, too. We would
>have to do a scientific survey to quantify our bird
>numbers, but we have tons more meadow larks and
>flycatchers this year.
>
>I just got my latest bee journal, and in it, a man recounts
>losing his whole set of hives to pesticide drift to
>methyl parthion. He then relates how thew baby quail who
>ate the dead bees then dissapeared.
>
>I know that the quail are dissapearing here and in
>my home area in the South. There is talk of
>endangered species listing.
>
>All of this has made me realize how interconnected
>things are and I now question everything.
>
>I know roundup is used a lot by some restorationists.
>
>Please see the link below for the effects of Roundup.
>I am going to work through the references, so please
>do not hammer me if there are some problems with
>the article. Data on roundup is so hard to find.  I just
>wanted to get this out there for some comments.
>
>http://www.enviroweb.org/hecweb/archive/glyphos2.htm#effect_nontarget
>
>-Austin Moseley
>
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