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Re: roundup



Bill Brink wrote:

> Austin,
>         Thank you for posting the link from the North West Coalition for
> Alternatives to Pesticides regarding the safety of Roundup. It made me
> wonder if this organization could have any bias towards the use of
> pesticides.

Biased as can be. But, then they have no incentive tofool themselves wrt to its
lack of toxicity either, or, stop
looking when they find one answer.

>         Here's a link to Extoxnet  http://ace.ace.orst.edu/info/extoxnet/

>         It seems to me that this information is given in a non-biased way and
> the material would subject to review by a highly regulated review
> process.
>         Review of safety of the herbicide Roundup to various organisms
> including honeybees and quails is included......

Don't mean to argue for the sake of arguing, but It was not a "review",
but a compendium of mostly third sources - handbooks - look at the attributions.
In addition, Extonet did not mention inhalation or the effects of solvents
in enhancing toxicity, for example. Enviroweb at least listed primary sources.
I have no idea if either misquoted or abused its sources, either.

I think the ag extension folks do a great job, but I fundamentally disagree with
some things they have promoted in my area, such as their popularization of
monoculture exotic pastures like Fescue and Coastal Bermuda.
From my personal experience, from business and wildlife management
perspective, natives have more going for them than the exotics.
Their approach to forages makes me question anything else they promote.

I want primary, relevant, real-world, non-trade-group sources - papers
I can get copies of and look at, think about, and apply to my particular
set of circumstances. If Roundup only kills a particular type of beetle, does it
matter that is "almost always safe" when you are trying to protect that one kind
of beetle?

-Austin Moseley







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