RE: Diazinon - Shocks plants, anniliates microbes


>Greg - Try Rotenone dust.  Coat your leaves lightly with it, and it should
>take care of anything that is nibbling.  It is also organic, and will not
>kill soil microbes, bees, etc.
>
>Diazinon will kill any soil microbes it comes in contact with, and there is
>evidence that chemical pesticides set back plant growth as well.  A good
>rule of thumb is:  how would your nervous system react to a particular
>treatment?  If you wouldn't want to be exposed to it yourself, don't 
>subject
>your plants to it.  Plants, too, react negatively to the nastier things.  
>At
>this stage of growth, you should provide the kindest environment possible.
>
>Good luck.
>
>Frank
>One of da Pumpkinguys in Madcity, WI
>

THANK YOU! Finally someone else who is saying the same thing I have been 
trying to say for the last 2 years. When I tried to discuss this before, I 
got bashed, and people were actually trying to get me kicked off of the list 
because of it. (Yes, I am serious!). Debating different issues on the list 
is not easy, (yet that is a reason why the list was created, so go figure).
Diazinon and other chemicals have been proven to destroy microorganisms that 
are extremely beneficial in so many ways, not only in promoting plant 
growth, but preventing other diseases and insect problems. When you start 
using one chemical, you might get a quick fix to one problem, but you also 
create about a dozen new problems, which of course you solve with more 
chemicals, and start getting into a "chemical circle" which eventually is 
going to either kill your plants, screw up the soil so much that it will be 
useless, and cause damage to human health. Another thing that people 
overlook is that although these chemicals are labeled "safe" for plants, and 
with snazzy labels, that is misleading, because they ALL do SOME damage to 
plants. Just not enough to not be able to call it "safe" (i.e. it doesn't 
kill them). Who would risk damaging plants at ANY level? Yes, organic ways 
are harder and sometimes more complex, but they not only don't do ANY damage 
to plants, but could help promote their growth and health in ADDITION to 
attacking the problem. PLUS ward off other related problems in advance. PLUS 
no harmful effects to human health, or the water supply, etc. You just 
cannot compete with billion years of nature refining itself, why would we 
try? I say SUPPORT nature, not work against it. That would be just plain 
stupid. We SUPPORT nature by breeding huge pumpkins, (enhanced natural 
selection) but work against it when trying to grow them. Then people whine 
about all of the problems they have, or why they have cancer, etc. It's not 
worth it, people.


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