Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #16
- Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #16
- From: D* S* <d*@yahoo.com>
- Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:09:38 -0700 (PDT)
This story just gets better and better, and the pumpkin plants are only two
days old. Went out to check the tomato and pumpkin plants awhile ago. I had
set out my baby pumpkin plants in their too-small pots to get a little
sunshine and harden off against rain and wind and stuff. They only came up
yesterday, but looked like they were straining toward the front glass in the
greenhouse and it's a glorious day although very windy. Half the dirt was
gone from three pots and the bare seed was showing in one of them!!! I stood
stupidly looking at them and it occurred to me like the cartoon with the light
bulb that we have a stupid black lab dog that like to eat potting soil. SON
OF A GUN! I hurriedly added fresh potting soil, put them in a more
inaccessible place, watered them, told them I was sorry the big doggy had
threatened them, and they should be strong little troopers and overcome such
adversity and then I came to the house. The sky is
dark and stormy, so I think I'll put them in the greenhouse for the night.
cheers,
duchess of gladstone
--- On Sat, 4/25/09, pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net> wrote:
From: pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net>
Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #16
To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
Date: Saturday, April 25, 2009, 2:01 AM
pumpkins DIGEST Saturday, April 25 2009 Volume 01 : Number 016
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:12:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Diana Sigel <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com>
Subject: too big for the pots
OK. I need some advice. My pumpkins are up; they are growing like wildfire,
and it looks like I won't get them planted for a week because of wet garden.
Should I transplant them into bigger pots? I started them in 4" peat pots,
and the roots are out the bottom as they emerge. Or will they be OK in the
4"
pots? Thanks for you help
cheers,
duchess of gladstone
- --- On Fri, 4/24/09, pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net> wrote:
From: pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net>
Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #15
To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 2:01 AM
pumpkins DIGEST Friday, April 24 2009 Volume 01 : Number 015
In this issue:
Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #14 -2-4-D update
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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:02:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Diana Sigel <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #14 -2-4-D update
Well. Everything seems to be fine in the greenery department. So we're
still
married. It rained another 1/2" last night. Will be days before the ground
is dried out now.
cheers,
duchess of gladstone
- - --- On Thu, 4/23/09, pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net> wrote:
From: pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net>
Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #14
To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 2:01 AM
pumpkins DIGEST Thursday, April 23 2009 Volume 01 : Number 014
In this issue:
Honey, can you smell 2-4-D in your greenhouse?
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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:42:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Diana Sigel <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com>
Subject: Honey, can you smell 2-4-D in your greenhouse?
As I was transplanting tomato plants into larger containers, my husband
yelled
from around the corner, "Can you smell 2-4-D in your greenhouse?" All my
bigger tomato plants are outside enjoying sunshine and 70+ temperatures at
10:30 this morning. The two pumpkins that have emerged (yesterday and today)
are in the greenhouse. I took them out of the incubator (which is in the
house) and moved them to my little toy greenhouse. When I said, "All my big
tomato plants are outside," the reply was, "Well, do you want this circle
driveway to grow up in grass and weeds?"
Remember this is the guy who loaded a gazillion pounds of liquid manure on my
pumpkin patch.
cheers,
duchess of gladstone
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:38:58 -0500
From: "Brian Taylor" <brian8t@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: too big for the pots
How warm is your soil? I've planted in mud before, wearing gum boats.
Nasty job, but mud washes off. Making sure your soil temp is good would be
my concern. I am in no way a pumpkin expert, not like many of y'all, but I
would think the sooner you can get them out of the pots, the less shock they
will go thru. You know how long it takes a root bound flower to bounce back
once you cut open their mesh and plant them. You know, the ones you pick up
at Wal-Mart on clearance later in the year. I won't plant for another month
and a half because of our long growing season. Our fair isn't until
October.
Brian
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Diana Sigel
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 11:12 AM
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
Subject: too big for the pots
OK. I need some advice. My pumpkins are up; they are growing like wildfire,
and it looks like I won't get them planted for a week because of wet garden.
Should I transplant them into bigger pots? I started them in 4" peat pots,
and the roots are out the bottom as they emerge. Or will they be OK in the
4"
pots? Thanks for you help
cheers,
duchess of gladstone
- --- On Fri, 4/24/09, pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net> wrote:
From: pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net>
Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #15
To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 2:01 AM
pumpkins DIGEST Friday, April 24 2009 Volume 01 : Number 015
In this issue:
Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #14 -2-4-D update
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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:02:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Diana Sigel <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #14 -2-4-D update
Well. Everything seems to be fine in the greenery department. So we're
still
married. It rained another 1/2" last night. Will be days before the ground
is dried out now.
cheers,
duchess of gladstone
- - --- On Thu, 4/23/09, pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net> wrote:
From: pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net>
Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #14
To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 2:01 AM
pumpkins DIGEST Thursday, April 23 2009 Volume 01 : Number 014
In this issue:
Honey, can you smell 2-4-D in your greenhouse?
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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:42:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Diana Sigel <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com>
Subject: Honey, can you smell 2-4-D in your greenhouse?
As I was transplanting tomato plants into larger containers, my husband
yelled
from around the corner, "Can you smell 2-4-D in your greenhouse?" All my
bigger tomato plants are outside enjoying sunshine and 70+ temperatures at
10:30 this morning. The two pumpkins that have emerged (yesterday and
today)
are in the greenhouse. I took them out of the incubator (which is in the
house) and moved them to my little toy greenhouse. When I said, "All my big
tomato plants are outside," the reply was, "Well, do you want this circle
driveway to grow up in grass and weeds?"
Remember this is the guy who loaded a gazillion pounds of liquid manure on
my
pumpkin patch.
cheers,
duchess of gladstone
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:47:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Cliff Warren <cliffwarren@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: too big for the pots
Yes, do re-pot the plants. They will not be happy if they are root bound.
However, here is a tip. Hopefully you have some one-gallon black plastic pots
laying around. These are cheap, usually I have these around from trees or
shrubs I may have purchased. Take one of these, and cut it in half! Cut it in
half lengthwise with some sturdy shears.
Then, use some duct tape to tape it back together.
When it comes time to put the plant out, you want to be able to carefully peel
off the tape, then carefully disassemble the pot. This enables you (hopefully)
to put the root ball in the ground without it collapsing.
I just did the same today with one of mine.
Good luck!
________________________________
From: Diana Sigel <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com>
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:12:20 AM
Subject: too big for the pots
OK. I need some advice. My pumpkins are up; they are growing like wildfire,
and it looks like I won't get them planted for a week because of wet garden.
Should I transplant them into bigger pots? I started them in 4" peat pots,
and the roots are out the bottom as they emerge. Or will they be OK in the
4"
pots? Thanks for you help
cheers,
duchess of gladstone
- --- On Fri, 4/24/09, pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net> wrote:
From: pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net>
Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #15
To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 2:01 AM
pumpkins DIGEST Friday, April 24 2009 Volume 01 : Number 015
In this issue:
Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #14 -2-4-D update
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:02:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Diana Sigel <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #14 -2-4-D update
Well. Everything seems to be fine in the greenery department. So we're
still
married. It rained another 1/2" last night. Will be days before the ground
is dried out now.
cheers,
duchess of gladstone
- - --- On Thu, 4/23/09, pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net> wrote:
From: pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net>
Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #14
To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 2:01 AM
pumpkins DIGEST Thursday, April 23 2009 Volume 01 : Number 014
In this issue:
Honey, can you smell 2-4-D in your greenhouse?
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Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:42:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Diana Sigel <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com>
Subject: Honey, can you smell 2-4-D in your greenhouse?
As I was transplanting tomato plants into larger containers, my husband
yelled
from around the corner, "Can you smell 2-4-D in your greenhouse?" All my
bigger tomato plants are outside enjoying sunshine and 70+ temperatures at
10:30 this morning. The two pumpkins that have emerged (yesterday and today)
are in the greenhouse. I took them out of the incubator (which is in the
house) and moved them to my little toy greenhouse. When I said, "All my big
tomato plants are outside," the reply was, "Well, do you want this circle
driveway to grow up in grass and weeds?"
Remember this is the guy who loaded a gazillion pounds of liquid manure on my
pumpkin patch.
cheers,
duchess of gladstone
End of pumpkins DIGEST V1 #14
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:08:00 -0500
From: "Brian Taylor" <brian8t@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: too big for the pots
Nice tip! Thanks!
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Cliff Warren
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 11:48 AM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: too big for the pots
Yes, do re-pot the plants. They will not be happy if they are root bound.
However, here is a tip. Hopefully you have some one-gallon black plastic
pots laying around. These are cheap, usually I have these around from trees
or shrubs I may have purchased. Take one of these, and cut it in half! Cut
it in half lengthwise with some sturdy shears.
Then, use some duct tape to tape it back together.
When it comes time to put the plant out, you want to be able to carefully
peel off the tape, then carefully disassemble the pot. This enables you
(hopefully) to put the root ball in the ground without it collapsing.
I just did the same today with one of mine.
Good luck!
________________________________
From: Diana Sigel <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com>
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:12:20 AM
Subject: too big for the pots
OK. I need some advice. My pumpkins are up; they are growing like wildfire,
and it looks like I won't get them planted for a week because of wet garden.
Should I transplant them into bigger pots? I started them in 4" peat pots,
and the roots are out the bottom as they emerge. Or will they be OK in the
4"
pots? Thanks for you help
cheers,
duchess of gladstone
- --- On Fri, 4/24/09, pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net> wrote:
From: pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net>
Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #15
To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
Date: Friday, April 24, 2009, 2:01 AM
pumpkins DIGEST Friday, April 24 2009 Volume 01 : Number 015
In this issue:
Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #14 -2-4-D update
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:02:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Diana Sigel <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #14 -2-4-D update
Well. Everything seems to be fine in the greenery department. So we're
still
married. It rained another 1/2" last night. Will be days before the ground
is dried out now.
cheers,
duchess of gladstone
- - --- On Thu, 4/23/09, pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net> wrote:
From: pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net>
Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #14
To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
Date: Thursday, April 23, 2009, 2:01 AM
pumpkins DIGEST Thursday, April 23 2009 Volume 01 : Number 014
In this issue:
Honey, can you smell 2-4-D in your greenhouse?
- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:42:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Diana Sigel <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com>
Subject: Honey, can you smell 2-4-D in your greenhouse?
As I was transplanting tomato plants into larger containers, my husband
yelled
from around the corner, "Can you smell 2-4-D in your greenhouse?" All my
bigger tomato plants are outside enjoying sunshine and 70+ temperatures at
10:30 this morning. The two pumpkins that have emerged (yesterday and
today)
are in the greenhouse. I took them out of the incubator (which is in the
house) and moved them to my little toy greenhouse. When I said, "All my big
tomato plants are outside," the reply was, "Well, do you want this circle
driveway to grow up in grass and weeds?"
Remember this is the guy who loaded a gazillion pounds of liquid manure on
my
pumpkin patch.
cheers,
duchess of gladstone
End of pumpkins DIGEST V1 #14
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Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:14:29 -0400
From: "Peters, Glenn" <gpeters@ll.mit.edu>
Subject: RE: too big for the pots
I just use plastic 1 gallon milk jugs easy to slit open when ready to plant,
gave up on peat pots years ago.
Glenn Peters
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:56:37 -0400
From: Jordan Rivington <jordan.rivington@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: too big for the pots
Never plant in mud. You will compact the soil and end your season (unless a
couple hundred is the goal) before you start. When soil is wet and pressure
is applied things stick together and when they dry end up like a rock. When
it rains in mid season, don't go in the patch, and when it rains in the
pre-season, don't start the season until the soil is dry. You should be able
to dig 6-8" down and grab a handful of soil...if you make a fist and the
soil sticks in a ball, its too wet, if it crumbles apart, good to go.
Sometimes can be hard to tell, but if you are planting in mud, you are
shooting yourself in the foot guaranteed!!!
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:57:55 -0400
From: Jordan Rivington <jordan.rivington@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: too big for the pots
...and yes, for sure, repot. The best situation is when you don't start
seeds until the patch is prepped and then regardless, you have hoop houses
with heaters up and they can go in the ground right away no matter what...
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Jordan Rivington <
jordan.rivington@gmail.com> wrote:
> Never plant in mud. You will compact the soil and end your season (unless a
> couple hundred is the goal) before you start. When soil is wet and pressure
> is applied things stick together and when they dry end up like a rock. When
> it rains in mid season, don't go in the patch, and when it rains in the
> pre-season, don't start the season until the soil is dry. You should be
able
> to dig 6-8" down and grab a handful of soil...if you make a fist and the
> soil sticks in a ball, its too wet, if it crumbles apart, good to go.
>
> Sometimes can be hard to tell, but if you are planting in mud, you are
> shooting yourself in the foot guaranteed!!!
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:13:08 -0500
From: Brian Taylor <brian8t@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: too big for the pots
OK. I'm listening. I would think it depends on the soil. Our soil here is
clay. you can amend it all day and year, but the end result is clay. hard
as a rock once dry, on top. underneath, it loosens up some. dig down 6-8"
and it will most always stick together. But, I hear what you are saying.
thanks for the advice. In our soil and summers, I'll be ecstatic with a
500'er
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Jordan Rivington <
jordan.rivington@gmail.com> wrote:
> Never plant in mud. You will compact the soil and end your season (unless a
> couple hundred is the goal) before you start. When soil is wet and pressure
> is applied things stick together and when they dry end up like a rock. When
> it rains in mid season, don't go in the patch, and when it rains in the
> pre-season, don't start the season until the soil is dry. You should be
> able
> to dig 6-8" down and grab a handful of soil...if you make a fist and the
> soil sticks in a ball, its too wet, if it crumbles apart, good to go.
>
> Sometimes can be hard to tell, but if you are planting in mud, you are
> shooting yourself in the foot guaranteed!!!
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:52:14 -0400
From: Jordan Rivington <jordan.rivington@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: too big for the pots
High in clay is only high in clay until you add alot of OM....but I know
your pain. My soil is very high in clay. My CEC is over 20.
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Brian Taylor <brian8t@gmail.com> wrote:
> OK. I'm listening. I would think it depends on the soil. Our soil here is
> clay. you can amend it all day and year, but the end result is clay. hard
> as a rock once dry, on top. underneath, it loosens up some. dig down 6-8"
> and it will most always stick together. But, I hear what you are saying.
> thanks for the advice. In our soil and summers, I'll be ecstatic with a
> 500'er
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Jordan Rivington <
> jordan.rivington@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Never plant in mud. You will compact the soil and end your season (unless
> a
> > couple hundred is the goal) before you start. When soil is wet and
> pressure
> > is applied things stick together and when they dry end up like a rock.
> When
> > it rains in mid season, don't go in the patch, and when it rains in the
> > pre-season, don't start the season until the soil is dry. You should be
> > able
> > to dig 6-8" down and grab a handful of soil...if you make a fist and the
> > soil sticks in a ball, its too wet, if it crumbles apart, good to go.
> >
> > Sometimes can be hard to tell, but if you are planting in mud, you are
> > shooting yourself in the foot guaranteed!!!
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