Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #341
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- From: "Farmer John's Pumpkin Farm" P*@FarmerJohnsPumpkins.com
- Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 06:57:07 -0700
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WOW! I guess this must mean that VINCE IS BACK? Almost kind of scary!!
There is life in this list yet!!
Eda at Farmer John's Pumpkin Farm
Personal Best 612 '04
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Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #341
pumpkins DIGEST Monday, August 1 2005 Volume 01 : Number 341
In this issue:
Re: How many days?
Cucumber beetles
Re: Cucumber beetles
Re: Cucumber beetles
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Stories of Lust and Despair from the Secret Patch
Re: Stories of Lust and Despair from the Secret Patch
Re: Stories of Lust and Despair from the Secret Patch
Bhaskaran Patch Update #4 August 1, 2005 -
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Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 05:30:19 EDT
From: WSMPEACE@aol.com
Subject: Re: How many days?
I don't have a book reference and don't know how long it took to get your's
to softball size, but common theory that I have read several times is 70 -
100
days from pollination to maturity. I would guess softball size to be 5 days
or so from pollination so that would leave 65 - 95 days. The goal for max.
size is for long steady growth. Good Luck...Have Fun...Grow 'em Big. Peace
Wayne
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:43:12 EDT
From: Davecbauer@aol.com
Subject: Cucumber beetles
Hello list,
I am back to growing pumpkins after a couple year hiatus. Thanks to those
that have helped me with seeds. Ive got great foliage and the pumpkins (2)
are
starting to approach soccerball size. I have treated with a disease
preventative
(not called Daconil anymore, but replaced it), but now the cuke beetles are
coming. I thought I used the daconil a couple years ago to treat cuke beetle
infestation butn this chemical is not an insecticide. What do I use as an
insecticide? I have seven dust but I thought I used something else before???
They're not a big problem yet, but I want to keep it that way.
Thanks for your help,
Dave
330 '02
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 07:41:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: vince <anaid_tecuod@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Cucumber beetles
Daconil is a fungicide great for powdery mildew. It might give
cuc beetles a little indigestion but it won't kill them. Try
the Sevin powder or you can also get Sevin in liquid form and
spray your plant. A little Sevin powder on your pumpkin and
it's handle will help prevent the beetles from knawing holes in
them...
vince
- --- Davecbauer@aol.com wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I am back to growing pumpkins after a couple year hiatus.
> Thanks to those
> that have helped me with seeds. Ive got great foliage and the
> pumpkins (2) are
> starting to approach soccerball size. I have treated with a
> disease preventative
> (not called Daconil anymore, but replaced it), but now the
> cuke beetles are
> coming. I thought I used the daconil a couple years ago to
> treat cuke beetle
> infestation butn this chemical is not an insecticide. What do
> I use as an
> insecticide? I have seven dust but I thought I used something
> else before???
>
> They're not a big problem yet, but I want to keep it that
> way.
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Dave
> 330 '02
>
>
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Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 14:22:24 EDT
From: Davecbauer@aol.com
Subject: Re: Cucumber beetles
thanx for the tip vince
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 12:26:53 -0600
From: "Michael B. Thomas" <mtgiants@mail.bigsky.net>
Subject: automated response
Kim Thomas
Big Sky Giant Pumpkin Growers
mtgiants@bigsky.net
www.giantpumpkins.blogspot.com
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 12:31:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: vince <anaid_tecuod@yahoo.com>
Subject: Stories of Lust and Despair from the Secret Patch
This year - for reasons that can't be revealed and no one must
ever discover - I am growing giant pumpkins in a secret patch.
The patch is tucked away near a creek at the end of a narrow
dirt road and shrouded in mist every day so that not even the
surveillance planes with their infrared cameras can find it.
Don't ever try to follow me when I make the perilous journey to
the patch or you will be pelted with horse apples by hidden
people unknown...
There is a method to my madness I assure you - for I am on a
peculiar and single-minded quest - to develop a giant pumpkin
cross that is big, beautiful and very orange. I know this is a
strange desire in the giant pumpkin world where the mantra:
big, heavy and butt ugly rules - so I must take precautions.
If this got out to the grower community, they would all
naturally assume that I'm insane...
I'm growing two plants in the secret patch - the genetics of
which can't be revealed. My co-conspirator (someone with the
best credentials, that no one would suspect, and a glutton for
punishment) is growing 18 or so plants around my two to provide
yet another layer of security.
Progress in the patch so far is typical for any giant pumpkin
grower. Every night armies of raccoons invade, rooting around,
eating the tips off vines, and scratching the pumpkins. (I
think fish emulsion is not the best idea in a place like this.)
The constant mist is a nice touch, but most the pumpkins that
have survived the embraces of the coons are growing so slowly
in the cool air that the "big" part of the equation is somewhat
dubious.
Mist also implies damp and one of my two plants has already
developed stump rot and probably will not reach the finish
line. I guess it's no matter - the first fruit on the main was
gouged badly by the coons, the second was malformed and the
third has aborted itself in disgust. Of course, I had already
culled the next two, so that about sums it up.
My hosts, however, have a few plants that are - well,
remarkable. There is one plant that I must tell you about
because it is so extraordinary... I was tending to my plants in
the misty morning hours - it was still only half-light. I
looked up to see a truly wondrous sight - a strange yellow glow
beaming from the dark interior of one of my host's plants.
I walked over to this plant to determine the source of the
light and I find - an open female flower larger than any I have
ever seen, larger than my open hand, radiating light like a
dozen fireflies on steroids and undulating her shimmering
petals most enticingly. In the center of this glimmering
yellow womb, six large perfectly symmetrical lobes beckoned
with such yearning you could feel the ache. As I approached
this seductive flower, the remainder of my senses were also
assaulted. A musty perfume overwhelmed my nostrils and the cup
of the flower shimmered with honey so sweet I could taste it on
my lips...
All this fantastic allure to attract a lousy bee?? If only
earth girls could express their desires so clearly...
Well, I could go on but it doesn't much matter because the
flower was 5 feet from the stump on the main so it was
removed... The next female on this plant showed up at about 11
feet and before it could open a coon ate the main tip just a
foot beyond the bud. When the bud finally opened, the lobes
were hopelessly deformed...
This atrocity must have really pissed the plant off because it
responded by growing so aggressively that even the coons were
intimidated. Side vines started sprouting every 6 to 8 inches
on huge burly vines with wildly whipping tentacles. The
secondaries on one side flew out in rage and overwhelmed the
main on the 1105 Stucker. A scary sight to behold if you've
never seen it before, let me tell you.
I have seen this kind of aggression before in two plants I've
had - so I know enough to keep my distance. First there was
Hera, the heretic, who used to eat dogs and frighten the
neighborhood children. Her final insult was to turn her fruit
a hideous blue-green. Then, I told you about Beowolf, the
dragon slayer - some mornings I would find strangled moles
hanging lifeless from his tentacles, like trophies on the
wall... So I know my gentle hosts have their hands full - They
are even talking now about an electric fence - not for the
coons but to contain this plant.
Anyway, the plant is also setting pumpkins everywhere - over 20
have open pollinated so far - many already the size of
footballs. The plant has so much juice that all the fruit have
multiple blossom end splits and the blossom stubs inflated to
the size of coffee cups. I've never seen anything quite like
this before. My theory is that the plant vigor you see
expressed in the leaves and the resulting fruit are all a
function of the part you don't see - the root system. This one
must have tapped into the mother lode...
There are more stories in the secret patch to tell but this
missive is getting overly long and I must sign off before I am
detected. Grow them big and orange and best of luck
vince
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Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 17:11:50 EDT
From: Ezpumpkin@aol.com
Subject: Re: Stories of Lust and Despair from the Secret Patch
Vince,
Are you a romance novelist by day?! Danielle Steel doesn't hold a candle
you
your article.
Whew!!! That got pretty sultry for a while.
My wife is not home at the moment. Somebody quick call and warn her.
She is well aware of the "issues" during the pollination period. With
pumpkins already hundreds of pounds in weight in the patch, she will
certainly not
be expecting what awaits her when she comes home.
Bob Matthews
Pumpkinnook.com
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 18:20:53 -0500
From: "Russ & Cindy" <rstokes@wi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Stories of Lust and Despair from the Secret Patch
Vince,
Great writing. I am growing some of your seeds, but have so damn many
cucumber beetles they eat sevin like its desert.
Russ
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From: "vince" <anaid_tecuod@yahoo.com>
To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 2:31 PM
Subject: Stories of Lust and Despair from the Secret Patch
> This year - for reasons that can't be revealed and no one must
> ever discover - I am growing giant pumpkins in a secret patch.
> The patch is tucked away near a creek at the end of a narrow
> dirt road and shrouded in mist every day so that not even the
> surveillance planes with their infrared cameras can find it.
> Don't ever try to follow me when I make the perilous journey to
> the patch or you will be pelted with horse apples by hidden
> people unknown...
>
> There is a method to my madness I assure you - for I am on a
> peculiar and single-minded quest - to develop a giant pumpkin
> cross that is big, beautiful and very orange. I know this is a
> strange desire in the giant pumpkin world where the mantra:
> big, heavy and butt ugly rules - so I must take precautions.
> If this got out to the grower community, they would all
> naturally assume that I'm insane...
>
> I'm growing two plants in the secret patch - the genetics of
> which can't be revealed. My co-conspirator (someone with the
> best credentials, that no one would suspect, and a glutton for
> punishment) is growing 18 or so plants around my two to provide
> yet another layer of security.
>
> Progress in the patch so far is typical for any giant pumpkin
> grower. Every night armies of raccoons invade, rooting around,
> eating the tips off vines, and scratching the pumpkins. (I
> think fish emulsion is not the best idea in a place like this.)
> The constant mist is a nice touch, but most the pumpkins that
> have survived the embraces of the coons are growing so slowly
> in the cool air that the "big" part of the equation is somewhat
> dubious.
>
> Mist also implies damp and one of my two plants has already
> developed stump rot and probably will not reach the finish
> line. I guess it's no matter - the first fruit on the main was
> gouged badly by the coons, the second was malformed and the
> third has aborted itself in disgust. Of course, I had already
> culled the next two, so that about sums it up.
>
> My hosts, however, have a few plants that are - well,
> remarkable. There is one plant that I must tell you about
> because it is so extraordinary... I was tending to my plants in
> the misty morning hours - it was still only half-light. I
> looked up to see a truly wondrous sight - a strange yellow glow
> beaming from the dark interior of one of my host's plants.
>
> I walked over to this plant to determine the source of the
> light and I find - an open female flower larger than any I have
> ever seen, larger than my open hand, radiating light like a
> dozen fireflies on steroids and undulating her shimmering
> petals most enticingly. In the center of this glimmering
> yellow womb, six large perfectly symmetrical lobes beckoned
> with such yearning you could feel the ache. As I approached
> this seductive flower, the remainder of my senses were also
> assaulted. A musty perfume overwhelmed my nostrils and the cup
> of the flower shimmered with honey so sweet I could taste it on
> my lips...
>
> All this fantastic allure to attract a lousy bee?? If only
> earth girls could express their desires so clearly...
>
> Well, I could go on but it doesn't much matter because the
> flower was 5 feet from the stump on the main so it was
> removed... The next female on this plant showed up at about 11
> feet and before it could open a coon ate the main tip just a
> foot beyond the bud. When the bud finally opened, the lobes
> were hopelessly deformed...
>
> This atrocity must have really pissed the plant off because it
> responded by growing so aggressively that even the coons were
> intimidated. Side vines started sprouting every 6 to 8 inches
> on huge burly vines with wildly whipping tentacles. The
> secondaries on one side flew out in rage and overwhelmed the
> main on the 1105 Stucker. A scary sight to behold if you've
> never seen it before, let me tell you.
>
> I have seen this kind of aggression before in two plants I've
> had - so I know enough to keep my distance. First there was
> Hera, the heretic, who used to eat dogs and frighten the
> neighborhood children. Her final insult was to turn her fruit
> a hideous blue-green. Then, I told you about Beowolf, the
> dragon slayer - some mornings I would find strangled moles
> hanging lifeless from his tentacles, like trophies on the
> wall... So I know my gentle hosts have their hands full - They
> are even talking now about an electric fence - not for the
> coons but to contain this plant.
>
> Anyway, the plant is also setting pumpkins everywhere - over 20
> have open pollinated so far - many already the size of
> footballs. The plant has so much juice that all the fruit have
> multiple blossom end splits and the blossom stubs inflated to
> the size of coffee cups. I've never seen anything quite like
> this before. My theory is that the plant vigor you see
> expressed in the leaves and the resulting fruit are all a
> function of the part you don't see - the root system. This one
> must have tapped into the mother lode...
>
> There are more stories in the secret patch to tell but this
> missive is getting overly long and I must sign off before I am
> detected. Grow them big and orange and best of luck
>
>
> vince
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> http://mail.yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 00:02:42 EDT
From: DBHASKARAN@aol.com
Subject: Bhaskaran Patch Update #4 August 1, 2005 -
Howdy!
Hope this note finds your patch and pumpkins doing extremely well!
I had one of my best pumpkins, the 759.5 Bhaskaran 04 Split on me on July
25th...it had reached a max of 29lbs per day and was 508lbs on day 36. Now,
things have slowed down as we had a few nights below 50 degrees early last
week...but we had a run of hot weather that SE MN rarely sees and with NO
Rain(I'm
on a well...so no problem! lol :-) for most of July...in fact up till
July
25th...best I can ever remember for warm nights...which is the KEY!
I have updated the web page if you wish to see them:
_http://members.aol.com/dbhaskaran/pumpkin05/_
(http://members.aol.com/dbhaskaran/pumpkin05/)
Anyways, here are the stats:
The Beachy Pumpkins are amazingly keeping pace with each other!! 1/2"
after
40 days!
Here is the current ranking in the patch as of Today with their weight and
last weeks gain:
#1 501.5 Beachy Plant 2 - Day 40- 138,84,85.5 = 307.5 OTT = 597lbs-
+141lbs/wk
#2 501.5 Beachy Plant 1 - Day 40- 139.5,83,84.5=307 OTT = 595lbs -
+130lbs/wk
#3 981 Zunino - Day 40- 130,83,84 =297 OTT = 539lbs-
+153lbs/wk
#4 798.5 Bhaskaran - Day 41- 111,83,95 =289 OTT = 489lbs -
+115lbs/wk
#5 486 Bhaskaran - Day 39- 120,77,77 =274 OTT = 426lbs-
+094lbs/wk
#6 1446 Eaton - Day 36 - 118,75,80 =273 OTT = 421lbs-
+135lbs/wk
#7 1385 Daletas - Day 44- 120,73,76 =269 OTT =403lbs-
+079lbs/wk
#8 1048 Companion - Day 36 - 101,60,61 =222 OTT =232lbs-
+069lbs/wk
#9 306.5 Rys - Day 39 - 100,60,61 =221 OTT = 229lbs-
+015lbs/wk
Splits:
#1 759.5 Bhaskaran - Day 36- 134,80,70 = 291 OTT = 508lbs -
+165lbs/wk *SPLIT*
Wishing you all a great August!!!
David Bhaskaran
Rochester, MN
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