RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #605
- Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #605
- From: &* H* <s*@insmgt.com>
- Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:29:44 -0400
We have GOT TO PARTY some time.
Steve Haberman
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From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Diana Sigel
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:13 AM
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #605
Lots of 'em, Steve! And I know a song about ground hog.
Off to the woods for to catch a groundhog.
Oh, groundhog.
Run here Sally with a ten foot pole, (repeat)
To twist that whistle-pig out of his hole.
Oh, groundhog.
Here comes Sal with a snicker and a grin, (repeat)
Groundhog gravy all over her chin.
Oh, groundhog.
Look at them fellers, they're a-goin' wild, (repeat)
Eat that hog before he's cooked or biled.
Oh, groundhog.
I dug down but I didn't dig deep, (repeat)
There laid a whistle-pig fast asleep.
Oh, groundhog.
Now the meat's in the cupboard and the butter's in the churn, (repeat)
If that ain't groundhog I'll be derned.
Oh, groundhog.
Well you eat the meat and save the hide, (repeat)
Make the best shoestring ever was tied.
Oh, groundhog.
Look at them fellers, they're about to fall, (repeat)
Eat till their britches won't button at all.
Oh, groundhog.
Little piece of cornbread a-layin' on the shelf, (repeat)
If you want any more, you can sing it yerself.
Oh, groundhog.
cheers,
duchess of gladstone
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From: pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net>
Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #605
To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010, 3:01 AM
pumpkins DIGEST Tuesday, August 17 2010 Volume 01 : Number 605
In this issue:
RE: Borax
RE: Borax
RE: Borax
Re: Borax
RE: Borax
Re: Borax
Re: cuke beetles
Re: Preen question
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:08:08 -0400
From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
Subject: RE: Borax
No groundhogs in the live traps today. Why I thought they would go after any
"bait" in the trap was stupidity on my behalf. They have a melon buffet!
Sorry Alan........"Woody" gets the Roman Emperor "thumb down"!
Steve Haberman
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
dspetandponds@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 2:41 PM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: RE: Borax
that's what i thought untill they aet all 6 of my giants. Use a 220 conabear
trap. And have no more pest.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Sent: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:13:30 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: RE: Borax
Can I relocate them next to your patch? LOL!
Steve Haberman
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Billy Bob
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:29 AM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: Borax
Try a Hav-A-Heart Trap. No need to kill.
Alan Reynolds
- -----Original Message-----
From: Steve Haberman
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Sent: Sun, Aug 15, 2010 7:44 pm
Subject: Borax
When I used Borax last year I was making a paste with some water. It worked.
his year I have been sprinkling it on strait from the box and have had even
etter results. I'll paint my Daconil on the stem and then top it off with
orax. Dry stems here in Indiana.
I do have a dang woodchuck eating $120 worth of melons a day. We just got
ack from Ohio and I am going out tonight to sprinkle him with 4 shot from
he 12 gage.
Hey Duchess of Gladstone, got a ground hog recepe?
Steve Haberman
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 11:13:30 -0400
From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
Subject: RE: Borax
Can I relocate them next to your patch? LOL!
Steve Haberman
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Billy Bob
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:29 AM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: Borax
Try a Hav-A-Heart Trap. No need to kill.
Alan Reynolds
- -----Original Message-----
From: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Sent: Sun, Aug 15, 2010 7:44 pm
Subject: Borax
When I used Borax last year I was making a paste with some water. It worked.
his year I have been sprinkling it on strait from the box and have had even
etter results. I'll paint my Daconil on the stem and then top it off with
orax. Dry stems here in Indiana.
I do have a dang woodchuck eating $120 worth of melons a day. We just got
ack from Ohio and I am going out tonight to sprinkle him with 4 shot from
he 12 gage.
Hey Duchess of Gladstone, got a ground hog recepe?
Steve Haberman
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:01:28 -0400
From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
Subject: RE: Borax
Used to trap a 60 set line for fox, beaver, muskrat, and coons. Thanks for
the advise. Actually, that is how I thought to use Borax as I dried flesh
from hides with it before tanning soak. Back full circle to pumpkins.
Steve Haberman
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Billy Bob
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 6:36 PM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: Borax
GroundHogs do not go for bait. You need to put in in there path they use.
They
love tunnels. You can even cover up the trap and just leave an opening.
Don't
bother setting them at night. You will only catch them in the day.
Alan
- -----Original Message-----
From: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Sent: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 4:08 pm
Subject: RE: Borax
No groundhogs in the live traps today. Why I thought they would go after any
bait" in the trap was stupidity on my behalf. They have a melon buffet!
orry Alan........"Woody" gets the Roman Emperor "thumb down"!
Steve Haberman
- ----Original Message-----
rom: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
spetandponds@comcast.net
ent: Monday, August 16, 2010 2:41 PM
o: pumpkins@hort.net
ubject: RE: Borax
that's what i thought untill they aet all 6 of my giants. Use a 220 conabear
rap. And have no more pest.
- ----- Original Message -----
rom: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
o: pumpkins@hort.net
ent: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:13:30 -0000 (UTC)
ubject: RE: Borax
Can I relocate them next to your patch? LOL!
Steve Haberman
- ----Original Message-----
rom: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
illy Bob
ent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:29 AM
o: pumpkins@hort.net
ubject: Re: Borax
Try a Hav-A-Heart Trap. No need to kill.
Alan Reynolds
- ----Original Message-----
rom: Steve Haberman
o: pumpkins@hort.net
ent: Sun, Aug 15, 2010 7:44 pm
ubject: Borax
hen I used Borax last year I was making a paste with some water. It worked.
is year I have been sprinkling it on strait from the box and have had even
tter results. I'll paint my Daconil on the stem and then top it off with
rax. Dry stems here in Indiana.
do have a dang woodchuck eating $120 worth of melons a day. We just got
ck from Ohio and I am going out tonight to sprinkle him with 4 shot from
e 12 gage.
ey Duchess of Gladstone, got a ground hog recepe?
teve Haberman
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 18:35:53 -0400
From: Billy Bob <mastrpumkn@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Borax
GroundHogs do not go for bait. You need to put in in there path they use.
They
love tunnels. You can even cover up the trap and just leave an opening.
Don't
bother setting them at night. You will only catch them in the day.
Alan
- -----Original Message-----
From: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Sent: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 4:08 pm
Subject: RE: Borax
No groundhogs in the live traps today. Why I thought they would go after any
bait" in the trap was stupidity on my behalf. They have a melon buffet!
orry Alan........"Woody" gets the Roman Emperor "thumb down"!
Steve Haberman
- ----Original Message-----
rom: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
spetandponds@comcast.net
ent: Monday, August 16, 2010 2:41 PM
o: pumpkins@hort.net
ubject: RE: Borax
that's what i thought untill they aet all 6 of my giants. Use a 220 conabear
rap. And have no more pest.
- ----- Original Message -----
rom: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
o: pumpkins@hort.net
ent: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:13:30 -0000 (UTC)
ubject: RE: Borax
Can I relocate them next to your patch? LOL!
Steve Haberman
- ----Original Message-----
rom: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
illy Bob
ent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:29 AM
o: pumpkins@hort.net
ubject: Re: Borax
Try a Hav-A-Heart Trap. No need to kill.
Alan Reynolds
- ----Original Message-----
rom: Steve Haberman
o: pumpkins@hort.net
ent: Sun, Aug 15, 2010 7:44 pm
ubject: Borax
hen I used Borax last year I was making a paste with some water. It worked.
is year I have been sprinkling it on strait from the box and have had even
tter results. I'll paint my Daconil on the stem and then top it off with
rax. Dry stems here in Indiana.
do have a dang woodchuck eating $120 worth of melons a day. We just got
ck from Ohio and I am going out tonight to sprinkle him with 4 shot from
e 12 gage.
ey Duchess of Gladstone, got a ground hog recepe?
teve Haberman
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 18:40:42 +0000 (UTC)
From: dspetandponds@comcast.net
Subject: RE: Borax
that's what i thought untill they aet all 6 of my giants. Use a 220 conabear
trap. And have no more pest.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Sent: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:13:30 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: RE: Borax
Can I relocate them next to your patch? LOL!
Steve Haberman
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Billy Bob
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:29 AM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: Borax
Try a Hav-A-Heart Trap. No need to kill.
Alan Reynolds
- -----Original Message-----
From: Steve Haberman
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Sent: Sun, Aug 15, 2010 7:44 pm
Subject: Borax
When I used Borax last year I was making a paste with some water. It worked.
his year I have been sprinkling it on strait from the box and have had even
etter results. I'll paint my Daconil on the stem and then top it off with
orax. Dry stems here in Indiana.
I do have a dang woodchuck eating $120 worth of melons a day. We just got
ack from Ohio and I am going out tonight to sprinkle him with 4 shot from
he 12 gage.
Hey Duchess of Gladstone, got a ground hog recepe?
Steve Haberman
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 18:30:41 -0400
From: Billy Bob <mastrpumkn@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Borax
YES!
- -----Original Message-----
From: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Sent: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 11:13 am
Subject: RE: Borax
Can I relocate them next to your patch? LOL!
Steve Haberman
- ----Original Message-----
rom: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
illy Bob
ent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:29 AM
o: pumpkins@hort.net
ubject: Re: Borax
Try a Hav-A-Heart Trap. No need to kill.
Alan Reynolds
- ----Original Message-----
rom: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
o: pumpkins@hort.net
ent: Sun, Aug 15, 2010 7:44 pm
ubject: Borax
hen I used Borax last year I was making a paste with some water. It worked.
is year I have been sprinkling it on strait from the box and have had even
tter results. I'll paint my Daconil on the stem and then top it off with
rax. Dry stems here in Indiana.
do have a dang woodchuck eating $120 worth of melons a day. We just got
ck from Ohio and I am going out tonight to sprinkle him with 4 shot from
e 12 gage.
ey Duchess of Gladstone, got a ground hog recepe?
teve Haberman
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:48:24 +0000
From: <rstokes@wi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: cuke beetles
The most effective chemical on cucumber beetle is Lambda-cyhalothrin (aka
Warrior T or Scimitar) These are not readily available to the average home
gardner. However, Triaicide has a small percentage of this chemical in it.
Usually you can buy Triaicide from Home Depot or other places that sell
chemicals to home gardners. Lamda-cyhalothri is a synthetic pyrethrum and is
used in food production. It is long lasting and the ready to harvest is
usually around 21 days after a treatment of Lambda-cyhalothrin. I don't use
Scimitar or Warror T for several reasons. One they are very expensive and a
whiskey shot glass of Warrior T is all I would need for a season. It
usually
is sold in 2 1/2 gal. jugs so it comes in a volume way to large for my use.
I
use Triacide at 2 and three times the recommended rate and have good success
in knocking back the cucumber beetle. Also, using Imidichloprin (Merit) as
a
drench, it works as a systemic and gives me a
double punch in knocking out !
the cuke beetle and other pests. What I have experienced is that Triacide
and a treatment of Merit keeps me cucumber beetle free for at least two
weeks. These treatments also seem to be effective against squash bugs.
Another factor to consider, is to be as effective as possible when applying
a
chemical. Use a sprayer that will put out a pattern that will coat the top
and
bottom and even the stems of the plants. I like to mix a cocktail of
Triacide
and Neptunes harvest together. I've had good results by doing this. I find
that the best time to spray is around 5pm, there is still enough activity of
the cuke beetle to get nailed as well as very little activity of honey bees
which I try to protect. I might mention that I am certified and licensed by
the state to buy and spray restricted chemicals. I have a little background
in
this area.
Hope this helps.
- ---- Jason Thomas <j.endlesstrail@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think pyrethrins work on soft-bodied insects like aphids and not
beetles.
> Usually the product labelling will list the insects that it is effective
on.
>
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net> wrote:
>
> > I purchased Spectracide Garden Insect Killer containing 0.3% Pyrethrins.
> > I'm
> > guessing that I purchased the wrong stuff? I sprayed a couple of nights
> > ago and
> > they are still around.
> >
> > Debbie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Russ Stokes <rstokes@wi.rr.com>
> > To: pumpkins@hort.net
> > Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 6:27:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: cuke beetles
> >
> > I have been growing squash, pumpkins, gourds for a long time. Cucumber
> > beetles
> > on your plant is a sure sign that if not treated promptly, more than
likely
> > you
> > will get bacterial wilt. The bacteria proliferates while the beetle
> > ingests
> > from an infected leaf and then passes the disease to the other leaves,
> > until you
> > have a stunted dying plant. Here is what I recommend:
> > Purchase Bayer Advance Fruit, Citrus and Vegetable Insect Control. It
> > contains
> > Imidacloprid (Merit) I usually use the recommended dosage, dump this in
a
> > 5
> > gallon bucket and fill the bucket with water. Then for each plant I
slowly
> > dump
> > the contents around the base of the plants. This is a systemic
insecticide
> > so
> > it usually will kill insects that bite into the plant. I then
thoroughly
> > spray
> > the leaves with Triazicide, again I use the recommended rate. I do all
of
> > this
> > either in early morning or in the evening. These two controls works
well
> > on
> > cuke beetle, squash bug and other pests. Make sure you protect yourself
> > from
> > the chemicals by wearing protective clothing or at least where long
pants
> > and a
> > shirt with glasses. The chemical in Triazicide is a synthetic pyrethrum
and
> > if
> > it touches the skin you will feel a burning sensation and itch. Good
Luck.
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:45:22 +0000
From: <rstokes@wi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Preen question
Preen contains a chemical that effects a seed that is about to germinate.
It
has no effect on plants already growing. Having said that, because the way
AG's grow, why risk the potential of damaging your plants? When you plant an
AG the goal is to grow the biggest and best pumpkin possible. I would
rather
sweat away with some hoeing and hand weeding than risk phototoxicity to my
plants. There are enough challenges you will face growing a big one.
However,
on a calm day with good distance from the pumpkin plants I have used
Round-up
sucessfully. This may be a better choice since it is a contact herbicide
and
leaves no residual. Remember though, one little slip up and you can do
irreparable harm to your plants. One grower posted on this forum a while
back
the following advice: Play like Santa and Ho, Ho, Ho, Ho, Ho.
Hope this helps.
- ---- Brian Taylor <brian8t@gmail.com> wrote:
> just searched the archives and see nothing about Preen since 1999. So,
does
> anyone use it to keep the perimeter of their patches weed free? I
wouldn't
> dare put it up close to my plants, but I'm wondering about the areas where
> the vines might wander into.
>
> Brian
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