RE: Deer Damaged Pumpkins
- Subject: RE: Deer Damaged Pumpkins
- From: &* H* <s*@insmgt.com>
- Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:22:38 -0400
Errol,
I grew up on a cattle ranch in Milner, just west of Steamboat. I went to
school in Ft. Fun (CSU). We took over my DEAR WIFE's place in Indiana @
2001. We had two sayings back home..."I hope Summer lands on a weekend this
year." And, "You don't lose your girlfriend in Milner, you just lose your
turn."
I'm teaching my kids to trap, hunt, fish, garden, drive a combine, haul hay,
and grow AG's here in the Hoosier State. People here still have common
sense, family values, religion, manners, and knowledge of the land. However,
It as flat as a pancake, humid as hell, and there are not any elk on my
place as far as I can tell.
Peace,
Steve Haberman
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Errol
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 4:35 PM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: RE: Deer Damaged Pumpkins
Hi Steve,
I understand that! I have 1/2 a dozen live traps from skunk size up
to large dog caught lots of skunks but forget about catching foxes or
coyotes, the coyotes aren't as bad as a domestic dog which just kills
for the fun but they do get my young sheep and goats and 2 years ago
a pack of coyotes wiped out all 15 of the barn cats. When my boys
watched a coyote get our house cat that just had a $400 vet bill the
#4 traps (SHHHH!) came out and I got her 2 days later.
That law made live traps and snares (if they had the stop on them so
it wouldn't hurt them...) the only traps you could use but the .06 is
still the most effective and out of my neighbors all the old timers
have died that kept the predators under control and now the new
people think there cute and feed them which makes them unafraid of
humans and then they get upset when they kill their cats and dogs!
The deer have never bothered my acre garden before, not much anyway!
(At least they left my pumpkins alone till this year!) They would
clean the velvet off of their antlers on my wind break trees and
break them sometimes.
And if you were around the Aspen area you know how quick the summers
are and you have no time for error on the garden, I'm not as high as
Aspen but I am at 7000' on the High Plains...
I still love it here and as long as I have a lot of acreage between
me and all of the new people moving in I will preferably keep
struggling with the animals they're safer! And there is always next
year for that big pumpkin!
Errol
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At 09:54 AM 8/26/2010, you wrote:
>My 89 Ford pickup still has the bumper sticker on it "Colorado Division of
>Wildlife, The Evil Empire" The most inept, incompetent, corrupt government
>agency of all time. They ended my trapping career in the late 90's with the
>help of the damned progressives by outlawing anything but live traps. I
hope
>everyone in Aspen is enjoying the coyotes, foxes, coons, skunks, and
beavers
>destroying their property and game bird populations!
>
>P.S. Crossbows are relatively silent.
>
>Steve Haberman
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
>Billy Bob
>Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 5:03 AM
>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>Subject: Re: Deer Damaged Pumpkins
>
>Try spraying the pumpkins with hot red pepper. That may work to keep them
>away. Make the spray out of hot sause you can buy at the store. Cut it with
>water. Good Luck!
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Errol <errolrw@ultrasys.net>
>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>Sent: Thu, Aug 26, 2010 4:34 am
>Subject: Re: Deer Damaged Pumpkins
>
>
>Thanks Alan,
>I will try that today on the pumpkin plus now a couple of watermelons
>ince I just chased the darn buck out of the watermelons that he
>ried to eat at 2AM this morning thanks to the full moon. I only have
> 4' fence with a hotwire and a proximity alarm set up in that patch.
> I have built enclosures on the pumpkins with sides to protect them
>lus almost a 7' fence around the patch so hopefully that will at
>east slow him down!
>Thanks Again,
>rrol
>
>---------
>At 12:14 AM 8/26/2010, you wrote:
>Wash the dried areas with some diluted bleach, let air dry, then
>spray with the spots with hair spray. This will seal and keep the spots
dry.
>
>Alan R.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Errol <errolrw@ultrasys.net>
>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>Sent: Wed, Aug 25, 2010 7:15 pm
>Subject: Re: Deer Damaged Pumpkins
>
>
>Thanks Bill,
>
>It's is a deer, I have 5 bucks from a young forked buck and all the
>way up to a 5-point buck just coming out of velvet and since the
>tracks of the damaged pumpkin was 3 1/4" and the other 2 sets of
>tracks were about 2 1/2" the older buck I am pretty sure is the
>culprit! The deer around here always hang around, a few years ago a
>herd camped just outside my front room window during the winter and
>you could watch them watch the TV!
>
>I extended the 600 feet 3' higher with a hotwire around the area and
>moved one of my dogs by the patch (chained up!) so he will bark at them.
>
>They have eaten some tomato's and a few other items before but have
>never touched the pumpkins before though....
>
>And I do have some borax I can put on the wounds on the plant but
>since it has scabbed over and isn't soft or oozing I have left it
>alone but I was concerned if I should do something with it as a
>precautionary measure since I am running out of summer days quickly
>here in Colorado, luckily my biggest one he left alone and didn't go
>under the covering!
>
>Errol
>
>
>----------
>
>At 12:46 PM 8/25/2010, you wrote:
> >For the 1st Year in the last 15 years of growing my pumpkins I've
> >had a deer decide that they are tasty!
> >
> >They ate all of my Cinderella and Field pumpkins in one of my
> >patches but they left my big pumpkins that are planted about a acre
> >away alone that night.
> >
> >Then a couple of nights ago they found my big pumpkins and they took
> >about 8 big bites out of my 2nd largest.
> >
> >I have taken countermeasures to protect the pumpkins left just short
> >of putting the 1 big buck out of the 5 that I think is the culprit
> >in the freezer.
> >
> >The bites have scabbed over and don't appear to be going soft but I
> >was wondering if I should put something on the bite chunk spots just
> >in case to protect them or just watch it closely!
> >
> >I do have a few cuke beetles but they haven't bothered my plants and
> >I have been hand picking them off but the deer are a different story.
> >
> >Also I am very reserved on spraying my pumpkins because at the end
> >of the year I recycle my pumpkins by goats and poultry which create
> >the manure for the garden! =-)
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >Errol
> >
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