Re: Precocious Genes


Nic,  I've had a similar experience.  I've seen
several young fruit a light shade of green which grew
up into very green squash.  All yellow young fruit
I've seen have ended up medium to dark orange.  The
white or cream young fruit I've seen have ended up
either light orange, or squmpkins such as Hera who
started out cream, turned salmon pink and then turn
70-80% blue-green.  

I have yet to see a young green fruit with strips.  So
I can't speak to that.  All the above fruit I've grown
had nice orange flesh regardless of the outer skin
color.

It has been also my experience that approximately 1/2
the plants grown from a selfed pumpkin throw green
squash.

It appears to me that the green gene is recessive to
the orange gene and that most orange fruit have it
hidden in a chromosome somewhere.

Just my thoughts.  Now that the biggest pumpkin ever
grown was a beautiful smooth orange color we all know
that orange pumpkins can be rather heavy too.

vince
best 789, 2000
zone 9, the chromosome zone


--- Nic Welty <nicwelty@netscape.net> wrote:
> There has been some discussion on the list as to the
> determination of squash
> vs pumpkin, and how we should deal with such fruit
> at weighoff.  I have been
> observing the inheritance and character traits in
> these giants to find some
> clues as to how this works out.  I have written one
> paper concerning this so
> far, but haven't shown many people because it isn't
> a complete paper.  I have
> determined one thing which I believe to be true in
> the area of inheritance of
> color.  There is a precocious gene that shows the
> softball size stage fruit to
> be either green, or not green (white, yellow).  This
> precocious gene is
> related to whether the fruit will be a squash or a
> pumpkin.  That is all
> precocious green are squash unless I do some severe
> color manipulation during
> growth.  The other precocious colors indicate
> pumpkin, and depending on
> varying degrees of shade will produce varying
> degrees of squash off color in
> the fruit which is predominately pumpkin color.  Now
> when I am doing
> classification for pumpkin or squash in my genetic
> notes, I consider anything
> that does not have the precocious green gene to be a
> pumpkin.  For scientific
> reasons this is a good and accurate way of
> classifying between the two.  For
> weighoff and public display maybe different rules
> are necessary, but due to
> the amount of manipulation that can be done by an
> individual, it is difficult
> to classify.
> Just some thoughts, I was wondering if anyone else
> had any similar or contrary
> genetic observations or ideas.
> 
> Nic Welty



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