Re: zones 3 and 4
Ahh, this was meant to be personal. Sorry...
Cliff
>From: "Cliff Warren" <cliffrwarren@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>Subject: Re: zones 3 and 4
>Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 08:08:09 -0700
>
>
>Ron,
>
>Nice to hear from you again. I agree, early season
>protection and soil amendments seem to be the best
>we can do. I also can't wait to try out the new
>seeds I've received from the list.
>
>By the way, did you know that there is now a GPC
>weighoff at Thanksgiving Point (midway between SLC
>and Provo)? I've been conversing with a fellow from
>near American Fork. Sounds like a promising place
>if I ever get one worth weighing.
>
>I'm really looking forward to 2001. Good luck to you too!
>
>Cliff
>
>
>>From: Ron Hoffman <ronalho@trib.com>
>>Reply-To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>>To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>>Subject: Re: zones 3 and 4
>>Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 18:31:48 -0700
>>
>>Cliff
>>I live in central WY at an elev of 5000' in zone 3-4 & have roughly the
>>same
>>the same temp swings & lots of wind with low humidity on 90+ deg days.
>>Without proper early shelter on direct seeded plants that germinated
>>around June 1, & without sufficient composted manure in a 75% virgin
>>patch without
>>optimum tilling, one of my plants was still able to produce a 372 lber
>>on a secondary
>>vine. I believe the key is to get good seeds from the good people on
>>this list, follow
>>Langevins book as best you can, and keep reading the posts from this
>>list. Last
>>summer, just when I would start to wonder about what to do in a
>>situation, my question
>>would already be answered by someone on the list who's plants were 2 or
>>3 weeks
>>ahead of mine. I think we can consistently grow 500+ lb pumpkins in this
>>area.
>>Who knows, maybe heavier if we have the time & means to construct proper
>>early
>>season & wind shelters, etc.
>>Ron Hoffman
>>Riverton WY
>>372 in 2000
>>
>>
>>Cliff Warren wrote:
>>
>> > Someone wrote to the group about growing conditions in zone 3and 4.
>> > I have to admit, this is a concern of mine. I live nearPocatello,
>> > Idaho in a zone 4 (which once in a decade or so actslike a zone 3...
>> > and kills the fruit trees). We get huge temperature swings between day
>> > and night. In thesummer our days can be in the 90's, while the nights
>> > still drop intothe 50's. A 40 degree swing is not uncommon. This daily
>> > swing isa concern of mine... although this coming year will be my
>> > secondand I don't have a lot of experience in this. After living here
>> > for 10 years, I have a theory as to why potatoesare grown here. Its
>> > because with potatoes, your product isprotected underground! The wind
>> > and temperature swings don'thurt them down there. That, and apparently
>> > potatoes don't mindour alkaline soils. On the plus side, we get almost
>> > constant sun between May andOctober. The climate is too harsh for many
>> > of the bugs, and I don'teven think about the diseases that you in the
>> > humid areas haveto worry about. And I'm about as far north as Buffalo,
>> > NY. I'd welcome a discussion about climatic and geographical
>> > concerns.Anyone else out there have these dry conditions and large
>> > temperatureswings? Cliff in IdahoBest: 125 lb.- 2000 Rookie year,using
>> > store bought seed,in soil with the alkalinity of a bar of soap...
>> >
>>
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