RE: New Ideas
Dwight,How is growing pumpkins a sport? You seem to think that if one is
in a competition and money is involved, then the activity has to be
called a sport. And then making a profit at any cost is allowed in your
mind? Weird logic man. Growing pumpkins is gardening. A hobby. Many
of us really, really don't want money for seeds to become involved
because it invites mucho fraud and cheating. I am not saying you lied
about your seeds, but many people would if they could make some money off
of it. I am also not saying if money is not involved that there will be
no fraud. There will be for the "fame", but it will be much less. As
for Mr. Eaton and LaRue, they are obviously trying to conduct a science
experiment with their seeds in order to get a bigger pumpkin. Quite
contrary to what you said, "Like all sports the cost to be competitive is
limited only by what you can afford to spend. In racing we! say , "If at
fast you don't succed, add more money!" True for every sport at the adult
level."
Obviously, some people give their seeds away to further our sport. We
should all be thanking Al and Jack for their years of dedication our
hobby and for their new efforts.
Greg Sanchez
aka: The Pumpkin Master
www.thepumpkinmaster.com
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: New Ideas
From: dewig1@excite.com
Date: Thu, December 16, 2004 7:34 am
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Man, and all you AG growers slammed me for selling my seeds??
Tell me what the difference is here, only allowing certain growers
access to your seeds? Mr. Eaton, why don't you sell the 1446 seeds
for $10 each like you did me on your 1009's?? Or you could maybe get
more, considering it's a Record AG.
Now I will respond to a few comments made on here, since I have been
bitting my tongue for awhile now...and just incase some of you didn't
see my post on BP. I sold my AG seeds because I am unable to grow
them in my climate, with my budget. Is it not better to give these
seeds a chance to grow instead of sitting idle until they won't even
germinate?? I think so. Funny how a member of the AG community was
the winner of the auction, at least a few believe in giving the seeds
a chance. ALL the seeds are the real deal, I don't lie, even if for
profit! I am not sorry for my actions by selling my seeds, I have
over $600 in these seeds, I am not going to give them away, not even
to a club. Alot of people call this a hobby, if you are growing for
competition, weather your trying to beat your neighbor or win your
local weigh-off, with a cash prize, your hobby has become a sport.
Like all sports the cost to be competitive is limited only by what
you can afford to spend. In racing we!
say , "If at fast you don't succed, add more money!" True for every
sport at the adult level.
If you have done everything you can to grow big, where else better to
spend your money than on genetics?? If you have spent years getting
your soil perfect, you have all the toys you feel required, $400+
sprayers, misters, small greenhouses, tractor, tillers, etc. How do
you improve? Better seeds maybe?? Sounds logical to me...
I'll stop, for now. Feel free to respond, I am off work the rest of
the year and will have lots of time on my hands, like some of you
apparently already do..
See Ya!
Dewight
To all AG growers--------Jack LaRue and I are considering an idea and
at<br>>this point just want to see how many are interested in
participating.<br>><br>>We propose to send 1-1420.5 and 1-1446 seed
to a number of growers with the<br>>following
conditions.<br>><br>>You must:<br>><br>>1.Plan to grow the 2 plants
in 2005 and cross pollinate them.<br>><br>>2.Have an email address so
we can communicate easily.<br>><br>>3.Live in one of the top 20
ranked states/provinces shown on www.ipga.ws<br>>,that are updated
with the 2004 information.We will use the TTA for 2004 for<br>>your
region so if your 2004 info is not listed yet,it is time to see that
it<br>>gets done soon.We will not consider anyone from a
state/province where the<br>>TTA is not current.<br>><br>>4.Have a
listing on AGGC,we would use your personal best weight,no
matter<br>>what category it may be in.<br>><br>>We
would:<br>><br>>1.Make an initial list of interested growers,you can
simply email one of us<br>>with a "!
cc" to the other.<br>><br>>2.Divide your PB from AGGC by your
state/province TTA to determine an index<br>>number which we would
rank from highest to lowest.<br>><br>>3.Go down the list to determine
if you are still interested since several<br>>weeks will have passed
during the process and your situation may
have<br>>changed.<br>><br>>We are considering:<br>><br>>1.Taking
email queries from the participants and answering as best we
can<br>>during the growing season,often a second or third opinion is
valuable when<br>>growing AGs.<br>><br>>2.Asking for a reasonable
financial contribution.This part is unsettled for<br>>now but take a
look at typical costs from other major seed
sources.Comments<br>>invited by interested parties.<br>><br>>3.Asking
for a short,confidential,end of month report during the
growing<br>>season.<br>><br>>4.Asking for maybe 10% of the seeds from
a few of the 1420.5 x 1446 crosses.<br>><br>>We are guessing that
maybe 50 growers will be on our indexed li!
st,although<br>>there is no maximum number and it is open to all that
meet the conditions.<br>><br>>Once the list is established we would
go down it to the end or until our<br>>allotted seeds run out.There
are several unknowns but on the final list<br>>there could be 10--30
growers,we are estimating.<br>><br>>Please email one of us
privately,with a "cc" to the other,if you have any<br>>interest in or
comments about the above very
tentative,proposal.<br>><br>>Cheers----JL and
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