Re: Flukes of nature??
- To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
- Subject: Re: Flukes of nature??
- From: "* <d*@ipa.net>
- Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 19:47:11 -0600
Greetings again, Miss Vickie,
I need to respectfully disagree with your counter examples of squash and
cukes in the same generation, since the mechanisms are the same as the
pumpkins. In fact, all are cucurbitae. Many other plants follow these same
genetic principles. Mottled colors in squash usually point to virus
infections.
As to corn, we do have a different mechanism. It is true that the presence
of field corn pollen will affect the eating qualities of the sweet corn, it
in no way affects the plant that was pollinated. What we eat is the "seed"
of the plant which, indeed, did develop as a result of that crossing. Not
the carrier of that seed. If, for example, we were breeding for cob length
or row number, we wouldn't expect to see a change in a corn plant effected
immediately after being cross pollinated with a different corn plant's
pollen. However, THE NEXT generation could show results of that cross.
These things CAN be so confusing since Nature doesn't always label which
plant parts belong to the parent and which the scion. I hope this helps.
There are many others who can explain this much better than I.
david
daviddd@ipa.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Vickie Brock <brocfarm@pacific.net>
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
Date: Monday, December 15, 1997 6:51 PM
Subject: Flukes of nature??
>>Well, Terry
>>Without being either too graphic nor technical.
>>
>>The plant with the female blossom does provide all the material for the
>>visible pumpkin we finally see. The act of pollination triggers hormonal
>>changes that allow the "mother" plant to begin to put energy and material
>>into that particular fruit. The only part of the plant with male blossom
>>that is involved goes to provide genetic material in the seed of that
fruit.
>>
>>In the case of humans, you have to remember that the baby IS the "seed"
>>itself (incorporating all the potentials of the next generation. We
mammals
>>just have an amusing way of spitting seeds. <smile>
>>
>>david
>>daviddd@ipa.net
>mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
mmmmm
> David nicely put.......thought of another example -the rooster , the hen
>and the egg.....the egg is activated ........
>I am not really clear what he was thinking as he thought that because he
>crossed the 941 to this and that he thought that they would pick up on that
>trait this season.......its hard to explain this to him because he has
>seen what I've seen...... as i don't think the rule holds up for all
>plants. I have seen indian corn effect sweet corn and also have also seen
>zuchinni both yellow and green exchange colors and get striped yellow or
>green, have also seen pickling cucumbers planted near lemon cucumbers
>pick up there traits...this doesn't happen often but happens! ..so I am not
>sure if these are flukes of nature........Or if anyone more knowledgeable
>can help......explain this !!
>
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@mallorn.com with the
>message text UNSUBSCRIBE PUMPKINS
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@mallorn.com with the
message text UNSUBSCRIBE PUMPKINS