Re: Lot's of questions


>-----Original Message-----
>From: brocfarm <brocfarm@pacific.pacific.net>
>To: pumpkins@mallorn.com <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
>Date: Monday, December 06, 1999 6:40 PM
>Subject: Re: Lot's of questions
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Chris, I think were surfing on the same wave.  I may be interpeting the
chart on  p.47 eskewed but i thought that those  numbers were guidelines in
ppm. to stay balanced. between CEC- K-Mag-Ca  If this is correct then i
felt like this was it the recipe guideline give or take.  I decided to see
if there was a corrolation between those that were sucessful and how
closely they fell into the chart.  Thus the questionaire. Some that are 1-2
year growers that are in the ballpark of those guidelines hit in the 800.
Do think there something to this??  Of course this is only one of  the
environmental factors.....MB


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>Mike,
>I don't know that what  your saying is entirely true. I think what you mean
>and correct me if I am wrong but the higher the CEC the easier it is to get
>your base saturation up there and maintain it.  A soil with a high CEC will
>retain hydrogen,calcium,magnesium,potassium and sodium much better/longer
>than a soil with a low CEC. Therefor by amending with compost, manure,
>fertilizers it is easier to get the base saturation rate up and maintain it
>at those high saturation levels when you are dealing with a high CEC soil
>vs. a low CEC soil. Low CEC and the soil will leach nutrients rapidly
>dropping the saturation level quickly, High CEC it will retain nutrients and
>the base saturation level will not drop as quickly. Here is an example. I
>will use  Bob Troy as my victim. Hope you don't mind Bob but I have your
>soil test!! Bob has Sandy Soil-Low CEC, I on the other hand have extremely
>heavy Clay Soil-High CEC. Bob had taken a soil test on 3/17/98 which we can
>compare to my soil test from 7/16/97 when I grew the 977.  Compare the CEC
>and our base saturation % as follows:
>
>Bob 3/17/98                                                       Chris
>7/16/97
>CEC 15.4                                                           CEC 39.7
>Base Saturation:                                                Base
>Saturation:
>K-7.5%,Mg-13.5%,CA-77.7%,NA-1.4%         K-4.0%,Mg-10.4%,CA85.3%,NA-0.4%
>
>As you can see even though Bob has a lower CEC his base saturation is higher
>than mine, with the exception of Calcium. Why? Bob put a lot O' fertilizer
>on which pushed his base saturation levels way up there. He did this because
>he knows he has a low CEC and will loose nutrients as a result of leaching.
>Therefor he has to keep pushing the fert. Hope I am making sense and this
>helps?
>Chris
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