Re: the real truth and history about selling ag's seeds.

Mr Fox,

Like several others who've participated in this discussion, I'm also a new grower who's yet to grow his 1st AG pumpkin.  But one thing that's blessed me greatly as a new person to this "hobby" has been the seemingly genuine sense of community that exists between these growers.  Contrary to what your comment 

"The reason people are against seed selling is because they used to growers giving a way seed for and seed sales at auctions to raise money for pumpkin contests."

implies, I don't believe the prospect of having to buy seed has much at all to do with the expressions of concern over commercialism that have been shared in recent months.  From the extremely generous seed sharing that I've benefitted from in the past few months (I didn't even know ANY of these folks!), I don't think most growers in this network will have any problem getting and/or giving as much seed as they want.  But what I do see possibly happening is that the experienced folks may be forced to look at new and/or unknown growers with more caution so as not to unknowingly contribute to someone else's desire to take advantage for personal gain.        

One thing that I've noticed as I watched this discussion is that there have been almost no posts from the usual contributors to the list.  So I'm hopeful that the group as a whole has pretty much decided to weather this storm of self-interest and continue on with the principles and practices that have made this unique group so attractive to me.  By the way Bill V, I got the seed you sent me last week.  I'm sure glad they're still free in some parts of the country.   :) 


-----Original Message-----
From: mat fox <mfox167@comcast.net>
Sent: Feb 13, 2005 12:22 PM
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
Subject: the real truth and history about selling ag's seeds.

A short history.
Howard Dill after growing and developing the Atlantic Giant seed variety several years.
He is granted a pvp 05/30/1986 on the variety.
Dill has right to license his seed for sale and prevent any one from selling seed for 18 years
without license or permission. Dill gives permission giant pumpkin groups to sell seeds to raise money for 
prizes. Trading for seeds or giving away seed is ok Since you are not selling them.
The pvp ends  05/30/04.
The reason people are against seed selling is because they used to growers giving a way seed for and seed sales 
at auctions to raise money for pumpkin contests.
Since people have not had buy seed they are afraid that the price will go up and since when some seeds 
where grown the grower could sell his seed . Seed that is given way free should not be sold.
Well technically seed seed trading and sharing was against the pvp. Thus depriving Dill 
of money.
So now that pvp has expired anyone can sell seed legally.
 No matter how they acquired them auction, traded for,and there own pumpkins a person can sell seed.
If you do not like people selling seed don't buy it, else it is not you business what they do with there seeds. 

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