Stomy weather in NZ


		Hi team

		Heavy storms over here with a northerly of 80KPH plus. They
stopped after a day and then it all turned to the south for good measure.

		Apart from all this the weather has been cool and wet YUK.

		But I still have a few good looking pumpkins coming on. Not
sure which vines as it is all a tangled mess and I am reluctant to walk
through the vines with my size 12s. Much as in life I do not know who the
father and mother is either. I am happy to be still in the running though.
Hoping for settled weather soon.
		Have a 'Parky' day

		John S


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			pumpkins DIGEST       Sunday, January 30 2000
Volume 01 : Number 1100



			In this issue:

			        Re: SOIL
			        IPGA seed auction - Day 10 Winner and
conclusion
			        Nematodes
			        Re: Greetings to all on the list- please
make an ignorant Texan feel welcome
			        Re: Attention all you Gourds wannabes
			        Re: AGGC links
			        Att. John Barlow
			        Re: Nematodes
			        Re: Nematodes
			        Re: Nematodes
			        Re: Let's cut the crap

	
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			Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 06:48:21 EST
			From: GBPUMPKIN@aol.com
			Subject: Re: SOIL

			In a message dated 1/27/00 9:40:27 PM Eastern
Standard Time, 
			ib4art@bentonrea.com writes:

			<< Subj:     SOIL
			 Date:  1/27/00 9:40:27 PM Eastern Standard Time
			 From:  ib4art@bentonrea.com (ib4art)
			 To:    GBPUMPKIN@aol.com
			 
			 Yes Sir, I saw where you said in the Dec. archives
you have a booklet that 
			tells what some things can do for the soil. Coffee
grounds, is the main one 
			if you could. I'm making an interesting tea for
plants in hopes it won't 
			kill.John Ripplinger in Prosser, Wa.
			  >>

			Coffee Grounds:

			2% nitrogen
			1/3 of a percentage of Phosphorous
			Trace of Potash
			Other notes:
			Mix with Lime
			They encourage acetic-acid-forming bacteria (they
break down organic matter 
			into plant food)
			Drip Coffee Grounds are the richest

			George

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			Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 07:18:27 EST
			From: Brad2julie@aol.com
			Subject: IPGA seed auction - Day 10 Winner and
conclusion

			Congratulations to John Sagaria, winner of the Lloyd
935 and friends!! His 
			bid of $114 was the highest for day 10.  Thank you
to all who participated 
			and supported us during the past two weeks.  This
years auction has been a 
			tremendous blessing for the the IPGA and all growers
involved with our 
			weigh-off site. Again, special thanks to Duncan
McAlpin, Wayne Kennedy, Barb 
			Kincaid, John Maston, Marv Hicks and the PGPGA, and
all other growers who 
			supprted us with their seed donations.  
			      Be sure to visit the IPGA website during the
spring and summer for 
			information and grower updates. The website address
again is:  
			www.ipga.freeservers.com
			 We hope you all have and wonderful growing season
in 2000.

			thanks again,

			Brad Walters

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			Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:39:16 -0500 (EST)
			From: deborahsloves@webtv.net
			Subject: Nematodes

			I tried a few years back to obtain these little
creatures from a nursery
			here in Canada....Sothwestern ONT.......I couldn't
get them....Is there
			a mail order address...for them..??.Could Some-one
post ....or let me
			know if they can be obtained ...in Canada ....from
a garden
			center...And what could the reason be for why
...they weren't
			available.....here.......??
			Thanks 
			Deborah

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			Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 08:24:14 -0800
			From: Vickie Brock <brocfarm@pacific.net>
			Subject: Re: Greetings to all on the list- please
make an ignorant Texan feel welcome

			> Pete and other would be pumpkin farmers,

			I think a pumpkin patch is a good idea.  What
concerns me is everyone tells
			you your crazy .  Why?  Talk to local gardeners,
farmers.  i can tell you
			from experience it is best not to be in a hurry.
Stick your toe in the
			water before you jump.  My advice would be talking
to locals, scale down
			and start small!  Plant a bunch of varieties in a
small 1/4  acre so you
			can find the best for your area. Now if you do well
with a small patch then
			next year expand...... .........brock























			   Hello:   I have never heard of a seed list or
auction.  In fact, I
			don't know if pumpkins even grow well in Dallas,
Texas.  Everyone here
			tells me I'm crazy to turn my 1.5 acres into a
pumpkin patch, but that's
			what I intend on doing.   I know you all probably
see a bunch of dumb
			questions from beginners, but I need help.  There is
an elementary school
			next door, and I want to get the kids involved in
this pumpkin patch.  I
			also want them to learn the right way to grow
pumpkins and not the way I
			think they should be grown.  Here are some of my
general  questions. If you
			don't have time to read this or are annoyed by
beginners,  please delete
			this message now- otherwise, prepare yourself....
1)  What is the best
			Jack o' lantern  pumpkin variety? 2)  What is the
best variety for my
			region  (North Texas)? 3)  How much room do you need
to grow  pumpkins? 4) 
			How many pumpkins can you grow per  square yard? 5)
When is the best time
			to plant  pumpkins? 6)  What preparations should I
make now,  while
			preparing the patch? 7)  What type of physical
protection do  pumpkins
			require? 8)  How much water do pumpkins  require? 9)
How far apart should
			you plant  pumpkins 10)  Should pumpkins be planted
in mounded  rows or in
			flat ground? 11)  Are there any fun ways to keep
kids  interested in the
			patch? 12)  How much should we charge for each
pumpkin when time to sell?
			13)  Can un-sold pumpkins be used by food  shelters
or should they be
			dumped/composted?   Any help is sincerely
appreciated!  If this e-mail is
			inappropriate for this list, please e-mail me
privately and do not make my
			mistake a "public flogging".  I will promise to sell
every seed  that I
			place on any list that I post! :)- Seriously though,
I would love to hear
			comments from the experts here.   Best regards to
all,   Pete Foster Flower
			Mound, Texas   ***you can always tell a
Texan........you just can't tell
			him  much!



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			Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 13:19:54 EST
			From: MTu4639875@aol.com
			Subject: Re: Attention all you Gourds wannabes

			In a message dated 29/01/00 04:06:34 GMT Standard
Time, carlson@sanasys.com 
			writes:

			> So if your interested in seed drop me a note and a
SASE and they are
			>  yours!! Good luck in 2000!!!!
			>  The Carlsons Dan aand Beth
			>  P.S. Mike T you just tell me if you want them and
they will be in the
			>  mail as soon as they are dry!!!!
			>  
			HI DAN & BETH
			You bet, I will post to you privately ok.
			P.S. CRUNCH, CRUNCH, CRUNCH. LOL LOL LOL LOL 
			ALL THE BEST BUDDY.
			MIKE

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			Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 13:21:42 EST
			From: LGOURD@aol.com
			Subject: Re: AGGC links

			Mike,

			Would appreciate a link: www.pandpseed.com

			Thanks

			Ray Waterman

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			Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 15:03:53 -0600
			From: Carlsons <carlson@sanasys.com>
			Subject: Att. John Barlow

			John,
			  I have tried to reply but your mail continue to
reject my efforts!!!
			Help
			The Carlsons Dan and Beth

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			Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:18:02 EST
			From: "Great Pumpkin" <greatpumpkin99@hotmail.com>
			Subject: Re: Nematodes

			>I tried a few years back to obtain these little
creatures from a nursery
			>here in Canada....Sothwestern ONT.......I couldn't
get them....Is there
			>a mail order address...for them..??.Could Some-one
post ....or let me
			>know if they can be obtained ...in Canada ....from
a garden
			>center...And what could the reason be for why
...they weren't
			>available.....here.......??
			>Thanks
			>Deborah
			>

			Hi Deborah! Well there is only one main company when
it comes to Nematodes, 
			as far as I know.... Garden's Alive.
			They have their own strain (Hb) which has a "tooth"
and moves 10 times 
			farther than other Sc strains. (Or so they claim,
anyway).
			They also offer Steinernema feltiae (Sf) strain for
control of "bad" 
			root-knot nematodes. I actually still have some of
the Hb strain in our 
			basement refrigerator right now.
			I checked and the only restriction they have is that
they cannot ship to 
			Hawaii, but they don't mention anything about
Canada. ....Wait, i just saw 
			the order form, now on that it says they cannot ship
anything to Hawaii or 
			Canada. That's odd, I wonder why then they have the
separate "Hawaii" 
			disclaimer on the Nematodes when they don't ship
there anyway. Weird. Anyway 
			you still might want to try. At least the catalog
has a lot of information 
			about the nematodes, if nothing else. If they won't
send you a copy, let me 
			know and I'll send you one of mine. I suppose if you
really wanted the 
			nematodes I could try to get some for you and send
them to you myself, but I 
			am not sure if there are any customs rules against
it, so I would have to 
			check.
			If you want, I could also scan the pages from my
catalog if you  wanted to 
			read about them right away. It wouldn't be a
problem.
			The address for GARDENS ALIVE is:
			GARDENS ALIVE!
			5100 Schenley Place
			Lawrenceburg, IN 47025
			Phone: 1-812-537-8650

			I am guessing there might be someplace in Canada
also that might sell them. 
			But as far as I know, the new strains by Garden's
ALive are supposedly the 
			best. Hope I helped some!

			- -Steve


	
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			Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 19:17:53 -0400
			From: Reinsborough <moto@nbnet.nb.ca>
			Subject: Re: Nematodes

			Try "Richters" from Goodwood, Ontario, L0C
1A0.....They have nematodes and
			will ship anywhere. You can order on line...Their
Web site is
			WWW.richters.com
			    Ken Reinsborough, Dalhousie, N.B.

			deborahsloves@webtv.net wrote:

			> I tried a few years back to obtain these little
creatures from a nursery
			> here in Canada....Sothwestern ONT.......I couldn't
get them....Is there
			> a mail order address...for them..??.Could Some-one
post ....or let me
			> know if they can be obtained ...in Canada ....from
a garden
			> center...And what could the reason be for why
...they weren't
			> available.....here.......??
			> Thanks
			> Deborah
			>
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			Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:36:05 GMT
			From: Bill Van <harrow.fur@pei.sympatico.ca>
			Subject: Re: Nematodes

			Ken:
			        Do we have that trouble in this area.

			                                        Bill Van




			At 07:17 PM 01/29/2000 -0400, you wrote:
			>Try "Richters" from Goodwood, Ontario, L0C
1A0.....They have nematodes and
			>will ship anywhere. You can order on line...Their
Web site is
			>WWW.richters.com
			>    Ken Reinsborough, Dalhousie, N.B.
			>
			>deborahsloves@webtv.net wrote:
			>
			>> I tried a few years back to obtain these little
creatures from a nursery
			>> here in Canada....Sothwestern ONT.......I
couldn't get them....Is there
			>> a mail order address...for them..??.Could
Some-one  post ....or let me
			>> know if they can be obtained ...in Canada
....from    a garden
			>> center...And what could the reason be for why
...they weren't
			>> available.....here.......??
			>> Thanks
			>> Deborah
			>>
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			Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 00:39:07 -0600
			From: Carlsons <carlson@sanasys.com>
			Subject: Re: Let's cut the crap

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			List
			Delete it now if you don't wish to hear some of the
old crap being slung
			back and forth but I thought it needed a response.
			Here is a copy of something sent to me completely
out of the blue and
			although I am somewhat surprised and confused over
it I thought it
			warranted a response for both  I  and Mike Turner's
reputation!!

			Mike:( think he means Dan here)
			        Let's cut the crap: Mike Turner is doing
exactly what
			I thought he was,when he asked for free seed(as a
lot of others thought)

			selling his seed.
			        I don't blame him, nothing wrong with that
if you can afford his

			prices. Obviously you have, but stop making a fool
of yourself by trying
			to
			support something you know is false; he is not
filling wish list's free
			of
			charge as he tries to make you think & you are
supporting it. Shame !
			        I am writing this private as I feel this
does not need to go
			public
			unless you continue to try and fool the new growers
who cannot afford to
			compete
			with you & think Mike is a great guy,trying to help
us growers.
			        I welcome your reply.
	
Yours
			truly;
	
Bill Van

			As a reply to this I write
			Dearest Bill,
			  What Have I done to warrent such crap ( I know I'm
tredding on thin
			ice with duncan but what the heck)
			    I have not gotten one seed from Mike YET but I
have been told that
			some are in the mail!! I have no reason to believe
he isn't a man of his
			word. I also want you to know I have NOT paid even
the postage to get
			them here!!  So what ever tripped your trigger here
please step back and
			take a chill pill!!
			I have no idea where you get the idea I'm trying to
FOOL new growers!
			You lost me on that one Bill!!.
			   Heck I usually don't even post much info unless I
really feel I have
			something of substance to add. LIKE THE THORSON
SECRET RECIPE FOR
			BORERS!!!! Or how to hold a soft stem for 4 to 6
weeks before
			weigh_off!! Ask Scott Armstrong on this note!!
(sorry Scotty but Mike
			needs some support here publicly)
			            Hey that is my stance and I stick up for
Mike as a straight
			shooter and as A good friend!!! I would feel this
way whether I got any
			seed or not from him!!! I have chatted privately for
the past 4 months
			and have really enjoyed it!!! Sorry to clog the mail
but had to let the
			world see some of this garbage being sent out!! If
you throw me off the
			list SO BE IT!!later
			the Carlsons Dan (doing the bitching)and Beth (the
innocent bystander)
			P.S.  I have not had any personal responses from
Bill before this and
			don't figure I'm going to get any favorable feelings
from him now!!! OH
			WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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			List
			<br>Delete it now if you don't wish to hear some of
the old crap being
			slung back and forth but I thought it needed a
response.
			<br>Here is a copy of something sent to me
completely out of the blue and
			although I am somewhat surprised and confused over
it I thought it warranted
			a response for both&nbsp; I&nbsp; and Mike Turner's
reputation!!
			<br>&nbsp;
			<br>Mike:( <i>think he means Dan here</i>)
			<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Let's
cut the crap: Mike
			Turner is doing exactly what
			<br>I thought he was,when he asked for free seed(as
a lot of others thought)
			<br>selling his seed.
			<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I
don't blame him, nothing
			wrong with that if you can afford his
			<br>prices. Obviously you have, but stop making a
fool of yourself by trying
			to
			<br>support something you know is false; he is not
filling wish list's
			free of
			<br>charge as he tries to make you think &amp; you
are supporting it. Shame
			!
			<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I am
writing this private
			as I feel this does not need to go public
			<br>unless you continue to try and fool the new
growers who cannot afford
			to compete
			<br>with you &amp; think Mike is a great guy,trying
to help us growers.
			<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I
welcome your reply.
	
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p;
			Yours truly;
	
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p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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			Bill Van
			<p>As a reply to this I write
			<br>Dearest Bill,
			<br>&nbsp; What Have I done to warrent such crap ( I
know I'm tredding
			on thin ice with duncan but what the heck)
			<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I have not gotten one seed
from Mike YET but I have
			been told that some are in the mail!! I have no
reason to believe he isn't
			a man of his word. I also want you to know I have
NOT paid even the postage
			to get them here!!&nbsp; So what ever tripped your
trigger here please
			step back and take a chill pill!!
			<br>I have no idea where you get the idea I'm trying
to FOOL new growers!
			You lost me on that one Bill!!.
			<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; Heck I usually don't even post much
info unless I really
			feel I have something of substance to add. LIKE THE
THORSON SECRET RECIPE
			FOR BORERS!!!! Or how to hold a soft stem for 4 to 6
weeks before weigh_off!!
			Ask Scott Armstrong on this note!! (sorry Scotty but
Mike needs some support
			here publicly)
	
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
			Hey that is my stance and I stick up for Mike as a
straight shooter and
			as A good friend!!! I would feel this way whether I
got any seed or not
			from him!!! I have chatted privately for the past 4
months and have really
			enjoyed it!!! Sorry to clog the mail but had to let
the world see some
			of this garbage being sent out!! If you throw me off
the list SO BE IT!!later
			<br>the Carlsons Dan (doing the bitching)and Beth
(the innocent bystander)
			<br>P.S.&nbsp; I have not had any personal responses
from Bill before this
			and don't figure I'm going to get any favorable
feelings from him now!!!
			OH WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</html>

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