RE: Overlooked seeds?


Hi John,
  Great topic for this time of year.  There are so many seeds out there that
look as if they have never been tried as you review them in the AGGC.
(Thanks Mike, Al, and all their helpers.)  There are probably of number of
seeds with great potential that haven't been given a fair shake.  So many of
us look to see what has produced for others before we make our choices.  A
number of seeds that probably would be great may only show a few mid-sized
offspring because they haven't been planted by the heavy hitters and given
the best chance to maximize their potential, and were grown by beginners or
folks who are still trying to get the hang of this.  Others never get
planted at all as people wait for someone else to prove that the potential
is there.  I can think of two that haven't been mentioned that probably have
good potential.  
  The 812 LaRue 97 Produced the 758.5 and 815.5 Baird a couple years ago,
and either hasn't been planted since or it's offspring haven't made it into
the database or to a weighoff.  The other is the 871 Richart 97 that Jake
VanKooten in B.C.has done so well with, growing a 764 in 98 and a 942 with
it last year.  Those are the only two offspring from that pumpkin that are
noted in the database.  Seeing Jake's 942 last year made a believer out of
me and I will be planting the one 871 seed I have this spring.
  I think a lot of potential exists in many of these untried and under
utilized seed lines.  I just wish I had the time and space to give more of
them a chance.  You don't need to spend a lot of money chasing this years
darlings to grow your best yet.  Most of us have probably already acquired
the seeds we need to do that.  You just have to give them a chance, it may
even come from one from your own patch.

Chris Michalec
Covington, WA
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	John Failor [SMTP:buckeye5@bright.net]
> Sent:	Saturday, January 20, 2001 12:44 AM
> To:	pumpkins@mallorn.com
> Subject:	Overlooked seeds?
> 
> Hello to all,
>  
>     Recently I was browsing through the AGCC database and I was struck by
> just how many seeds are there and I wonder how many of them have really
> gotten a fair shake. With all those seeds there is way to give them all a
> real shot and it is a better bet to plant proven seeds. After all,seeds
> are a crape shot as it is but still I have to wonder if there isn't a
> juggernaut hiding in there somewhere just waiting to be discovered and
> take off.   After all the top seeds are hard to come by  and maybe we will
> find the next top seed.
>  
>     I would like to get the group's feedback on this subject and maybe
> some seeds they think are undiscovered monsters.  
>  
> Here are some that I think might be:
>  
> Brock 685
> Wray 738
> Welty 809
> Sproule 952
> McCallum 566
> and first generation 825 Shymanski offspring. (The 801 Stelts can't be the
> only one with such stellar genetics).
>  
>     Then again I could be wrong but look at the example of the 903
> Holland. It was grown in 97 and after its first year no one grew a huge
> pumpkin with it  and people lost interest but this year out of  no where
> Joel Holland grew a 808, 967 and 1026 with it. I bet it will get more
> attention this year!
>  
>  
> Any thoughts?
>  
> John
>  

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