RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #546
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- Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #546
- From: J* S*
- Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:37:09 +1300
Hi Team
What a great break - so now it is back to work. A week in the thermal
pools in Rotorua, Christmas in Wellington and a month painting the house
with large applications of lolling around and a cold one under the old
Elm tree.Weather here is good with the temp creeping up the thirties. We
now have watering restrictions with no hoses or sprinklers allowed so it
is a case of being 'sneaky' at night time.
I have three plants established, an Andersen 634, 977 and a Smith (NZ)
530. The 634 is by far the strongest and the only one to have female
flowers to date.
There is lots of fertilizer going on, a liquid mainly high in Potash to
encourage flowering.
Plants around the province are in the same state so now is the time to
get them edumacated on pollination. We have sent out one letter to all
growers (about 300) and will send them another soon. I will encourage
them to send a post card or letter to those of you who were able to
supply seeds so you may get something in the post in a month or so.
Pruning and burying the ends of the growth anround the base plant is a
busy job to supplement the root system.
There are three seperate leaders racing down the vege patch, one from
each plant. I hope to pollinate the 634 with a male 977 as the 634 is
really strong.
That is about it in a nutshell. Our Weigh-Off and Pumpkin Festival is
all organised. Worm Farms will be the prizes and they are now being
stored all ready.
I will do a random phone survey this week to see how the picture is
across the province. I will also call the best growers from last year -
the real fanatics on whom we depend for a few whoppers.
I'll keep you all posted. I do not have a computer at the moment so have
logged on to a neighbours machine. I hope to have a new one installed
today with sound and stuff like that
Have a 'Parky' day
John S
> ve failed and most of the others are too
> early to tell. Two look like they may take but are still below
> critical
> mass. Most of the flowers were selfed but of the two that look good at
> least
> one was crossed with the #554. The #400 was allowed to grow unattended
> and
> appears to have set one good looking fruit.
>
> The #554 has only produced 3 female flowers but all appear to have set
> and
> producing large fruit.
> The flowers on the #554 are much bigger that the #815 including the
> fruit at
> time of pollination. Also the fruit stems on the #815 are not much
> more than
> 1/2" thick compared to 1"+ on the #554. The main vine is thicker and
> leaves
> look more robust.
>
> I am thinking that if the #815, which has received all my time and
> effort,
> does not show more promise within a weeks it will have to go.
>
> Stewart
> Canberra Aust
> the nation's capital
> sdeans@pcug.org.au
>
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> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 05:05:39 -0800
> From: "Mike Stephenson" <beacon@teleport.com>
> Subject: Re: Down under
>
> >I am thinking that if the #815, which has received all my time and
> effort,
> >does not show more promise within a weeks it will have to go.
>
> Stewart,
>
> From what you have said I see the 815 as being, as best, a male
> pollinator
> for your 554 plant.
> The 815, like any seed, it going to produce differently depending
> on...everything. :-)
> Your 554 is clearly the stronger plant and that is where your
> resources
> should go, IMHO.
>
> I know I sometimes think that a seed from a heavy pumpkin may have
> more
> merit than one from a smaller pumpkin, and then I think to
> myself.......567.5 :-) Today the 567.5 almost doesn't make the top
> 1000
> list.
> (it is 978th), yet what I wouldn't give for a seed from that lady.
>
>
> Mike
> Beaverton, OR
>
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> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 09:25:57 -0500
> From: "Lisa Shumaker" <lshumaker@greenapple.com>
> Subject: Re: Drying Gourds
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Welty <ldnwelty@raex.com>
> To: pumpkins@mallorn.com <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
> Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 9:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Drying Gourds
>
>
> >Thanks to all who have given ideas, I have been experimenting with
> several
> >dozen gourds I grew this past year. I became frustrated with the
> mold and
> >sprayed the gourds with 75% bleach solution. No mold has continued,
> but
> temp
> >has been below freezing. I put the gourds in a grain bin and turned
> the
> fan
> >on. I have a question concerning removing the skin. Do you have to
> remove
> >the skin, when is the best time to remove it? Thanks for your help.
> >
> >Nic Welty
> >
> >
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> Hi, Nic!
>
> I have grown several types of gourds the past few years, and have a
> few
> opinions on care, drying, etc. The first year I drilled holes in
> them, but
> have found since that this is not necessary, they dry fine without
> them. I
> have taken mine to the garage to dry, but found out by accident this
> fall
> (dad was in hospital, didn't get them to the garage) they do dry fine
> when
> left in the straw laying by the garden.
> My luffa gourds ended up dried and skinless by themselves laying out
> there,
> also: before, I would soak them in a crock of salt water and scrub and
> squeeze and scrub and squeeze some more to remove the skin, seeds and
> pulp.
> This was a nice surprise!
> Next, the mold that forms is a natural thing and it lends itself to
> some
> very interesting patterns on the final shell. The molded skin comes
> off
> very easily when dipped in a 5 gallon bucket of warm, soapy water then
> scrubbed lightly with a nylon kitchen scrubber used to clean pots and
> pans.
> I have found that each gourd only takes less than 5 minutes to clean.
> I
> then let them set overnight to be sure they are dry.
> I then apply 2 or 3 coats of a clear polyurethane. This not only
> protects
> them from the elements, but gives them a shiny appearance.
> Hope this helps!
> Lisa Shumaker
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> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 09:27:17 -0500
> From: "Lisa Shumaker" <lshumaker@greenapple.com>
> Subject: Re: Giant Beans
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: George Webster <PumpkinDude@webtv.net>
> To: pumpkins@mallorn.com <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
> Date: Monday, January 04, 1999 11:30 PM
> Subject: Giant Beans
>
>
> Angela C
> Regarding giant veggies for your
> kids.......
> I have some seed from a "giant bean"
> that I used to grow years ago. This
> "bean" (( gourd family I suspect))
> grows to a length of 3 or 4 feet.
> The circumference is about
> 18 inches. It is a "vivid" green in
> color.... almost fluorescent.
> it does well on a trellis.
> The seeds look a lot like Dan
> Carlson's long gourd seeds.
>
> I have about 100 seeds in storage
> but they are about 10 years old.
> I will do a germination test this week
> and post the results.
>
> ((yes Dan & Beth, I will mail you
> some if they still germinate))
>
> George
> Napa, Ca
>
> This variety is the 567.5 of "beans".
>
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> George,
> If the germination turns out ok, I would appreciate a few seeds!
> Thanks in advance.
> Lisa Shumaker
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> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 09:07:14 -0800
> From: "Cindi & Pete" <cglasier@napanet.net>
> Subject: Re: Looking for seeds...... CA growers & beyond!
>
> Zach,
> I will have some seeds in the mail to you next week. Keep up
> the
> good work. Pete Glasier
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> > From: ZEKEIV@aol.com
> > To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> > Subject: Looking for seeds...... CA growers & beyond!
> > Date: Friday, January 08, 1999 6:59 PM
> >
> > Hello again,
> >
> > First I would like to thank those who have contributed seeds for our
> > California GPC site. Again just a little history for those of you
> who
> may not
> > know who I am, my name is Zach and I assist in coordinating the GPC
> site
> in
> > Elk Grove, CA. Each year we give away small packets of seeds (2 - 3
> seeds per
> > packet) to anyone who is interested in attempting to grow Giant
> Pumpkins.
> I
> > learned last year that our local California Growers were interested
> in
> helping
> > to promote the sport of Giant Pumpkin Growing and we are attempting
> to do
> just
> > that. We have in fact printed news releases in a number of
> newspapers,
> sent
> > PSA's to local radio and TV, and are meeting the folks who run the
> FARM
> area
> > at the California State Fair to include Giant Pumpkins and a
> weigh-off as
> part
> > of the State Fair in Sacramento this summer. Our state fair ends on
> Labor day
> > weekend and I know that is early for a weigh off but the idea is to
> get
> all of
> > the counties who participate in the fair to grow pumpkins to compete
> in
> the
> > weigh-off.
> >
> > This is where I need some assistance I AM LOOKING FOR ANYONE WHO HAS
> A
> SURPLUS
> > OF SEEDS THAT THEY WOULDN'T MIND PARTING WITH TO HELP PROMOTE OUR
> SPORT.
> The
> > genetic make up of the seeds is not as important as the quantity.
> Our
> hope is
> > to expose as many people as possible to the opportunity to grow a
> giant
> > monster, and as you all know after they try it once they will be
> hooked!!
> > Then the genetics will become important! If you have seeds that you
> wouldn't
> > mind parting with please e-mail me our address and I will send a
> SASE as
> soon
> > as possible (Hopefully before postage goes up on 1/31).
> >
> > If you would like more information on our event which will be held
> on
> > Saturday, October 2nd, 1999 in Elk Grove, CA., e-mail me or call me
> at
> (916)
> > 685-7092. Please be sure to tell me where you are calling from so I
> can
> > adjust my calling time to fit your time zone if your not in
> California.
> >
> > Again I thank you for your time and assistance. Good luck to
> everyone in
> > 1999!!!
> >
> > Zach
> >
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> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 09:21:45 -0800
> From: "Shellie & Mick" <mcramer@olywa.net>
> Subject: Re:Looking for seeds ...CA growers and beyond
>
> Zach,
>
> Hold on to your SASE. Just give us a mailing address and you got
> seeds!
> Shellie
> mcramer@olywa.net
>
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> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 13:17:06 EST
> From: Clem4PCS@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Pallets to improve circulation and decrease disea
>
> Dear Pumpkin Growers,
> Thank You for the important info about undesirable materials in the
> Pumpkin
> Patch... You have saved my pumpkin and my family , I am glad that I
> am not
> going this without all of you and thank you over and over again for
> seeds and
> info. angela c.
>
> <<http://www.indra.com/~topsoil/>>
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> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 18:51:09 EST
> From: ZEKEIV@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Re: Looking for seeds...... CA growers & beyond!
>
> Hello!!
> Thanks for the response, just a quick note to let you and the MRS.
> know. We
> entered our Harvest Festival into a state wide competition for
> Festivals and
> Special Events and we will be receiving two awards, and Award of
> Excellence
> (1st place) for the overall festival, and an Award of Merit (2nd
> place) for
> our Marketing Theme Campaign!! What fantastic news for our local
> committee
> members!! I am so excited about our 1999 festival it is just unreal!!
>
> Take care, talk to you soon, keep growing!!!
> Zach
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> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 18:53:34 EST
> From: ZEKEIV@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Re:Looking for seeds ...CA growers and beyond
>
> Shellie,
>
> Thank you very much! Seeds can be mailed to:
>
> Elk Grove Parks and Recreation
> 8820 Elk Grove Blvd., Suite 3
> Elk Grove, CA 95624
> Attn: Zach
>
> I will send you a sample of the packet we will be distributing just
> for fun!!
> Thanks again,
> Zach
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> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 19:03:21 EST
> From: SteveS012@aol.com
> Subject: Jung is selling AG seeds for $2.95
>
> I just got a JUNG catalog and they are actually selling packs of 20 AG
> seeds
> for $2.95. P&P is selling them for like $10, a SEED. Go figure that!
> I like the picture they have in the JUNG catalog of an AG though, that
> thing
> looks like 2000 pounds!!!!!!!!!!! SHEEEEEEEEEEESH! I wonder if that
> was
> doctored up.
>
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> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 19:40:14 -0500
> From: "jim" <jgate@prodigy.net>
> Subject: FW: Fertilizer ppm Calculations
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: jim [j*@prodigy.net]
> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 1999 7:37 PM
> To: Pumpkins
> Subject: Fertilizer ppm Calculations
>
> I was searching for fertilizers and found the following fertilizer
> calculation program. This program will calculate ppm of pre-mixed
> and
> custom blended fertilizers. Looks like a good program. I am only a
> second
> year grower I thought maybe some of the experienced growers could tell
> me if
> they think this program would be helpful. There is a demo you can
> download
> and take a look at it. Just check out at the link below.
>
> Jim Indiana
>
> http://www1.shore.net/~rcapra/
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> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 20:49:19 EST
> From: Clem4PCS@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Jung is selling AG seeds for $2.95
>
> Here is the P&P seed co. price list, maybe it was a Burke for $10???
> I wonder
> if the seed companies put a pedigree on their packages so the consumer
> knows
> the parentage. To me that is one of the funnest parts of growing
> these
> pumpkins (well of getting ready to grow one anyway) is knowing what
> pumpkins
> they come from, you know, parentage, poundage, appearance... also,
> look at
> the minimum order amount! angela c.
>
> Under 400 lb ... (best value)..... 6 SEED @$3.50
> 400 to 499 lb ....................... 6 SEED @$5.00
> 500 to 599 lb ....................... 6 SEED @$7.50
> 600 to 699 lb ....................... 6 SEED @$8.50
> Over 700 lb ....................... 5 SEED @$10.00
>
> << I just got a JUNG catalog and they are actually selling packs of 20
> AG
> seeds
> for $2.95. P&P is selling them for like $10, a SEED. Go figure that!
> I like the picture they have in the JUNG catalog of an AG though,
> that thing
> looks like 2000 pounds!!!!!!!!!!! SHEEEEEEEEEEESH! I wonder if that
> was
> doctored up.
> >>
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> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 21:17:42 EST
> From: TBrown7087@aol.com
> Subject: Pumpkin Advice
>
> First time posting with e-mail. I am a 2-year grower with a best of
> 290lbs.
> I live just west of Cincinnati, in Harrison, Ohio.. I have a frient
> who got me
> in to growing giant pumpkins. He lives a little futher west, in
> Indiana. He
> is a 3-year grower with a best of 506lbs. We have put together a list
> of
> questions. We will take all the help we can get.
>
> 1. Are there any adverse effect to watch for when using a systemic
> fungicide?
>
> 2. It takes between 2 - 3 weeks to get the results of a soil test
> back. In
> the middle
> of a growing season, that is much too long to wait. How accurate
> are the
> battery operated soil analyzers sold in seed catalogs?
>
> 3. If your soil test indicates that you are near the top in all
> areas, is
> there really
> a need to use dry fertilizer when tilling the soil when planting?
>
> 4. Has anyone heard of or used tree grafting wax when dealing with
> splits,
> weeping
> or stem stress instead of Captan or other fungicides? With what
> success
> is
> this done?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom Brown
> TBrown7087@aol.com
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> Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 22:00:52 EST
> From: jljaussi@juno.com (Jon L Jaussi)
> Subject: Re: Jung is selling AG seeds for $2.95
>
> buying seeds is for people who don't dare ask. Talk to the top
> growers.
> They WILL give you seed for free.
>
> Save your money for soil prep.
>
> Jon in Utah.
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> On Sat, 9 Jan 1999 20:49:19 EST Clem4PCS@aol.com writes:
> >Here is the P&P seed co. price list, maybe it was a Burke for $10???
>
> >I wonder
> >if the seed companies put a pedigree on their packages so the
> consumer
> >knows
> >the parentage. To me that is one of the funnest parts of growing
> >these
> >pumpkins (well of getting ready to grow one anyway) is knowing what
> >pumpkins
> >they come from, you know, parentage, poundage, appearance... also,
> >look at
> >the minimum order amount! angela c.
> >
> >Under 400 lb ... (best value)..... 6 SEED @$3.50
> >400 to 499 lb ....................... 6 SEED @$5.00
> >500 to 599 lb ....................... 6 SEED @$7.50
> >600 to 699 lb ....................... 6 SEED @$8.50
> >Over 700 lb ....................... 5 SEED @$10.00
> >
> ><< I just got a JUNG catalog and they are actually selling packs of
> 20
> >AG
> >seeds
> > for $2.95. P&P is selling them for like $10, a SEED. Go figure that!
> > I like the picture they have in the JUNG catalog of an AG though,
> >that thing
> > looks like 2000 pounds!!!!!!!!!!! SHEEEEEEEEEEESH! I wonder if that
> >was
> > doctored up.
> > >>
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> Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 20:44:56 PST
> From: "harry hurley" <harryhurley@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Pallets to improve circulation and decrease disease
> /manure/dog doo
>
> It will also kill your lawn. Where ever it lays it will turn you
> grass
> from green to brown around it.
> Harry Hurley
>
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> >Subject: RE: Pallets to improve circulation and decrease disease
> /manure/dog doo
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> >Hi
> >In my experience dog doo is too acidic to use as soil improvement.
> (ruined a flower bed...all turned yellow and died!)
> > I believe it is because of the meat products they eat.
> >Kristina
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Clem4PCS@aol.com [SMTP:Clem4PCS@aol.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, January 07, 1999 5:29 PM
> >To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> >Subject: Pallets to improve circulation and decrease disease
> /manure
> >
> >I found this short idea in May/June 1994 Organic Gardening and would
> like to
> >know any opinions about this technique...
> >
> >By Bette Bonnet from Front Royal, Virginia
> >
> >"Pallet-Raised Squash
> >The wooden pallets that I get for free from a local bread bakery are
> put to
> >many uses in my garden. Their newest use is as support for squash
> plants;
> >raising the vines up off the ground improves air circulation and
> makes
> the
> >plants much less susceptible to disease.
> >
> >Before planting the squash, I first put down a mulch of paper feed
> bags
> (we
> >buy a lot of chicken, goat and hog feed) to keep down weeds and
> retain
> >moisture. Then I cut holes into the bags, plant the seeds inside
> those
> holes
> >and put the pallets down on top of the bags. The squash germintates
> and grows
> >right up through the slats in the pallets. Within weeks, the pallets
>
> are
> >completely covered by the vines and nary a fruit is touching the
> ground!
> >
> >I've been thinking too hard about how to grow my pumpkin, my family
> is
> worried
> >about me. I'm wondering about that dogfood gertilizer ideal. If
> dogfood is
> >good for the soil, it seems that processed dog food would be even
> better! I
> >am wondering what the composition of Dog doo doo might be?
> >
> >Here are some statistics from Organic Gardening May/June 1995 for
> >Sheep/Horse/Cow
> >
> >Pounds per ton: N P K
> >----------------------------------------------------------
> >Sheep manure 20 9 17
> >Horse manure 11 6 13
> >Cow manure 9 6 8
> >Dog manure ? ? ?
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