Cuppy leaves and stump shoots


Glenn, and all who read my previous post about leaf shape,

I just finished my morning inspection tour and pruning duty. Now I see what 
you are talking about. I was envisioning really tulip shaped leaves which 
were very small. Now, having waded into the middle of the plant, hoping that 
those snapping sounds were not signs of permanent damage to vines, I see what 
you are talking about. The leaves which fight for light are smaller and, as 
you say, "cuppy." Probably the answer to the issue of what to do with them 
lies in math. Figure the surface-area-per-leaf equivalent factor for cuppy 
leaves vs flatties, and prune accordingly to get equivalent areas. Maybe one 
of the guys with many vines will be willing to do this in his spare time!
Meanwhile, another issue. It seems to me that each year about this time the 
stump goes through a mid-life crisis and tries to produce a whole 'nother set 
of vines. The result is that I have to wade into that area of mature, brittle 
leaves and hack out these little upstarts so that I will not have mess of 
weak growth that invites powdery mildew. Is this common with you all? If so, 
what do you do, besides hire a midget with a razor to crawl through the 
plant, silently assassinating the upstarts?

John in San Jose

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