Re: Growth
So very true Rocky...............I have a pumpkin on a 780 that started off
slow, but now it could be my biggest at 20 days.....you just never
know!!!!!!!............wayne
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From: The Eatons <eatrich@magma.ca>
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
Date: Sunday, July 30, 2000 10:21 PM
Subject: Growth
>Rocky-I agree with your comments,every fruit acts individually,no two are
>ever the same.
>
>A grower should never get discouraged by slower than average early growth
>(where there is life there is hope)at the same time we shouldn't get too
>excited(but we do) about exceptionally fast early growth.I have almost
>always lost them when that happened.
>
>A good example of an exception is the 862 VanIderstine 99 (beat the PEI
>record by some 140 pounds)and I think Bill said it was under 11" at 10
days.
>
>So early growth is only an indicator not the end of the story by any
>means.It does give us something to think about though on the seemingly slow
>route to the scales.--AE
>
>
>
>*****************************
>Al is very right about the guidelines he has set up for 10 and 20 days, but
>also
>remember that the exceptions to the rule are what is coined as late vigor.
I
>was
>at 47 inches on day 20 with my 815 fruit (which I am having a rough time
>deciding which fruits to cull - they all look so nice!!) , but on day 30
>(yesterday) I was at 88 inches circumference, 206 OTT. 41 inches in 10
days,
>and
>the last 3 days my fruit has been putting 20 pounds a day, and I look
>forward to
>even bigger jumps over the next 2 weeks...
> In 1998 I went into August with my 879 with measurements at
>94-60-64=218OTT
>and went out at the end of August at 149-86.5-94=329.5OTT. This was a jump
>in
>estimated weight of 489 pounds in one month.. These growths can be Jack and
>the
>Bean Stalkish, and that is one of the biggest reasons we do this.. I will
be
>there the same, if not ahead of these numbers this year on August 1st, with
>out
>being at 60" on day 20, so don't ever get discouraged, unless you are at
20"
>at
>60 days, then you are in big trouble!!..
> The best feeling is going on vacation and coming back 4 or 5 days later
>to
>see your fruit grow over 100 pounds in that time frame. Of course, get a
>good
>pumpkin sitter for piece of mind.. Sad part is, I do forget about work
while
>I
>go on vacation, but I still worry about the little things in the patch,
>cause
>only you know the entire patch inside and out.
> Just remember, there is early vigor, late vigor and then those that
just
>chug along. You never know which version you have, but you can use seeds
>with
>histories of one of those traits, and hope it is a plant that is just like
>its
>mom or grand mom.. Good luck, and may the miracle-gro be with you...
>
>The Eatons wrote:
>
>> Hello Mark Fowler-you are so right,it is truly a thrill to see how fast
>> those young fruit can grow.
>>
>> If they grow too fast though they may split and if they grow too slow
they
>> will never amount to much.
>>
>> We have some control over our plants but in addition every plant and
fruit
>> have a "will" of their own,that often is a surprise.
>>
>> I have a "rule of thumb" that I have evolved over several years and the
>> results from dozens of plants.The following growth,at least as far as I
am
>> concerned,is the indication of a "good" fruit come fall.
>>
>> *****************20" on Day 10 and 60" on Day 20***********
>>
>> That is,inches in the conventional horizontal circumference.
>>
>> They may grow slower or faster than that and still be successful (there
>are
>> exceptions to everything in this hobby) but the above is a good middle of
>> the road place to to be I find.
>>
>> So Mark,use the above guideline,on size vs days from pollination and see
>how
>> your AG growth looks.Then you will have some idea of how to rate your
>> growth.
>>
>> I would be interested in seeing those numbers---Cheers--AE
>>
>> ******************************
>> Hey Gang,
>> I know this may sound trivial to most of you experienced growers but I
>just
>> had to give an update. As a first year grower I have learned a tremendous
>> amount about this sport. I have been watching my main pumpkin very
closely
>> and am so excited at what I am seeing! It is now about twice the size of
a
>> softball and I cannot believe it's growth rate. Since I measured it 24
>hours
>> ago it has gained 2 1/2" in size. Over the last for hours it picked up
>> 3/4"!!! I am amazed at how quickly it can happen.
>> Is this a good growth rate for a young pumkin or am I getting all worked
>up
>> about nothing?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mark Fowler
>>
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>***Rocky Rockwell***
>
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>
>.... Fair and Equitable ....
>
>Just remember .... "It is what it is" ....
>
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