RE: Will Warrior Kil Groundhog?

Ray said he'd loan me a trap; here are some results of making phone calls:

I call the city's rodent control # & when the nice lady said a
groundhog/woodchuck wasn't a rodent, I hung up.
I called the county's cooperative extension & they said they don't do any
animals/rodents.
I called the soil & water conservation # & they don't do rodents & gave me
#'s of "people" in my area who "handle" wildlife. I called one of the
numbers & got what sounded like someone's home answering machine.
I called the SPCA; connected to their wildlife dept; they said they don't
have the resources for trapping & removing. Nor do they have or loan traps.
They only help injured wildlife. I asked if I was lucky enough to whack it
over the head with a shovel, would she consider that "injured wildlife" and
she said "...well..I guess." The girl, who had a speech impediment, said I
shouldn't try to trap or kill it. She gave me a recipe to spray on the
plants for 2 weeks, your onion-jalapeno-cayenne mix. She also said to put
out cans of ammonia.
Somewhere I found a completely different city # for rodents but got an
answering machine; I left a message & got called back about an hour later. I
explained, told him I actually saw it, he asked my address & said one of the
trappers will call me back soon. That was about 90 minutes ago.

Thanks also to everyone that e-mailed me personally; I tried the feral cat
story too, but don't think they knew what I was talking about. 

I posted a pic of the shed/fence plant area & where it comes & goes, with
captions, here:

http://tinyurl.com/hztc

The plants look closer to the shed than they really are; they are about 10ft
away, 1 vine tip is about 6ft from the shed.

Thanks.
Mark 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Steve Hatfield or Kim Rogers-Hatfield
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 11:01 AM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: RE: Will Warrior Kil Groundhog?


Call the city animal control they may bring out a trap and dispose of the
animal also. Or you could take up archery. Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Mark K
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:27 PM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: RE: Will Warrior Kil Groundhog?

Are they known to pass by/thru AG's to get to melon leaves? Or sunflower
leaves? Sunflowers are still young, no heads. It would be different if I had
melons they were after but I don't & probably NOW WON'T. What's the matter
with the sugar snap peas, too sweet? Got lots of them I can spare. 

Bill, I assume you're talking about dusting the pumpkin vine tips, not the
decapitated melon vines & sunflower leaves? As future protection? It's
passing up AG tips inches away to travel 15ft to melon leaves, or 20ft the
other direction past a parked car to get to my biggest sunflower leaves by
the other fence. I wondered why the sunflowers were dying off along that
fence, they looked like they were decimated by a swarm of bugs when about 6"
tall. Even now, some are barely left & still 6" tall & nearly leafless &
others are almost 2ft. I actually have some gray/white sunflower seeds I
harvested from plants last year from Rocky's seed sitting on a barrel 3ft
away from the melon plants but maybe they are up too high.

Don't want to sound cruel but too broke for a trap, can't I just whack it
with a shovel or a garden fork or "exhaust" it? Are there any less expensive
"termination" devices or methods than a live trap? What about stuff for rats
or mice, D-CON, etc, and are any garden chemicals toxic or fatal to them?
Also are they sensitive to yardlights at night or maybe music? And what veg
plants/flowers/other are in its diet? And what would make him go in a trap
if he has a smorgasbord in front of him?

Thanks Bill & Steve; Ray, I'm local, in the Lovejoy area, 2 minutes from the
Clinton Market.

Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
WILLYRAIN@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 9:55 PM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: Will Warrior Kil Groundhog?


In a message dated 7/23/2003 8:57:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
korney19@adelphia.net writes:

> I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF A BIG CITY, NO WILDLIFE NEARBY (just squirrels.)
> Gun was a thought but am about 8 houses from a police station. Any 
> ideas? Thanks for any help.
> 
> Mark
> 

Hey Mark
Ray at P and P seed was right. It is best to trap them. (You can release
them 
way far away). The thing that I use for that problem is lightly dust the
ends 
of the vines with Bone meal. I use it on the pumpkins too sometimes when
they 
find a new souce of dinner, but only lightly (It can be a little hot on the 
skin of a pumpkin if you put it on too heavy). 
Good Luck 
Bill Garvey

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