Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #181

The green one is a squash outcross if you want to grow a gaint squash leave it on the vine if not cut it off on the shading just cover the pumpkin with a white sheet just to keep the sun off of it . 
Ken
ruskos@charter.net
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Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #181
pumpkins DIGEST Tuesday, July 10 2007 Volume 01 : Number 181 



In this issue:

       first year grower
       RE: first year grower
       RE: first year grower
       plant tissue testing
       RE: plant tissue testing
       Re: first year grower
       Re: first year grower
       Re: seasonal perils correction
       RE: first year grower
       Re: first year grower

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Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:44:47 -0500
From: Becky Black <leader@centurytel.net>
Subject: first year grower

Hello,

I subscribed to your list when my son became interested in giant
pumpkins as a 4-H project.  He is growing Atlantic Giants and has
several nice sized pumpkins already. (we are in Missouri)  He started
them inside and transplanted them later in hopes he'd have one for the
State fair in August.  (we'll see)  We had one of the pumpkins come on
Green, with a watermelon type stripe.  All the others are light peach
in color.  Most are larger than a beach ball.  What is the green one?
Should we pick it off?  It's about the size of a basketball.

Also, do we need to shade the pumpkins, I didn't know if they "burned"?

Love reading your tips!
Thanks!!!

Have a Great Day!

Becky Black
Plattsburg, Missouri






"Do not go where the path may lead,
go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." ~ Ralph Waldo
Emerson
Celebrate Life
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:45:22 -0400
From: Stephen Jepsen <ctpumpkin@optonline.net>
Subject: RE: first year grower

Shading the pumpkins is a good idea.

How many plants does he have going?

Is that green one is on the same plant as the pale yellows?


There have been certain genetic lines (900 Lyons comes to mind) that would
produce green (squash) or orange (pumpkin) on the same plant but it isn't a 
common trait.

Stephen Jepsen
CT GS&PGA President

Grow 'Em BIG



- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of 
Becky Black
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:45 AM
To: owner-pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: first year grower

Hello,

I subscribed to your list when my son became interested in giant
pumpkins as a 4-H project.  He is growing Atlantic Giants and has
several nice sized pumpkins already. (we are in Missouri)  He started
them inside and transplanted them later in hopes he'd have one for the
State fair in August.  (we'll see)  We had one of the pumpkins come on
Green, with a watermelon type stripe.  All the others are light peach
in color.  Most are larger than a beach ball.  What is the green one?
Should we pick it off?  It's about the size of a basketball.

Also, do we need to shade the pumpkins, I didn't know if they "burned"?

Love reading your tips!
Thanks!!!

Have a Great Day!

Becky Black
Plattsburg, Missouri






"Do not go where the path may lead,
go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." ~ Ralph Waldo
Emerson
Celebrate Life
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 15:27:59 -0400
From: "Mark Fowler" <MFowler@hsc.edu>
Subject: RE: first year grower
Check out the link below for a neat shade structure. I built these this year 
and they are not much trouble at all.

http://www.mainepumpkins.com/shade.html

Mark Fowler
Farmville, Virginia

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of 
George & Carolyn Heyne
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 2:27 PM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: first year grower

Becky,

I pound six foot metal stakes into the ground and stretch and tie (using
electrical ties) a 6x8 or 8x10 foot tarps between the stakes in a lean
to fashion. This helps keep the sun and rain off the pumpkins and keeps
the ground under the pumpkin dry. After each stake is set in the ground,
I tie one corner of the tarp to it. That way, I can keep the tarp fairly
tight when I build the lean to. The high end of the cover is on the
blossom end side of the pumpkin. This allows you to crawl under the tarp
and inspect the pumpkin. This is just one way of many to protect the
pumpkins from sun and rain.

George Heyne
Rochester, MN

Becky Black wrote:


What do we shade them with?  When the plants were young we used storm
window tee pees to protect them from the wind, but the plants are huge
now...

We planted 12, and never dreamed they would all make it, but they have.

Honestly we haven't traced the vine for the green one.  We know where
most of the others come from and have pulled the blooms so that we only
get the one pumpkin on each main vine, but the green came out of no
where a few weeks ago.  We'll have to check to see if it has any pale
yellows on the same vine. We do have both yellow stem and green stems,
but the pumpkins are still light peach.

Don't know about the genetic lines of the seeds we got...first
year...just happy to have lots of big pumpkins.  I have attached a
couple pictures.  Any advice is appreciated.  Thanks for your time.

Becky Black
Plattsburg, Missouri

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type multipart/appledouble]

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type multipart/appledouble]
"Do not go where the path may lead,
go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." ~ Ralph Waldo
Emerson
Celebrate Life

On Jul 9, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Stephen Jepsen wrote:




Shading the pumpkins is a good idea.

How many plants does he have going?

Is that green one is on the same plant as the pale yellows?


There have been certain genetic lines (900 Lyons comes to mind) that
would
produce green (squash) or orange (pumpkin) on the same plant but it
isn't a
common trait.

Stephen Jepsen
CT GS&PGA President

Grow 'Em BIG



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
Behalf Of
Becky Black
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:45 AM
To: owner-pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: first year grower

Hello,

I subscribed to your list when my son became interested in giant
pumpkins as a 4-H project.  He is growing Atlantic Giants and has
several nice sized pumpkins already. (we are in Missouri)  He started
them inside and transplanted them later in hopes he'd have one for the
State fair in August.  (we'll see)  We had one of the pumpkins come on
Green, with a watermelon type stripe.  All the others are light peach
in color.  Most are larger than a beach ball.  What is the green one?
Should we pick it off?  It's about the size of a basketball.

Also, do we need to shade the pumpkins, I didn't know if they "burned"?

Love reading your tips!
Thanks!!!

Have a Great Day!

Becky Black
Plattsburg, Missouri






"Do not go where the path may lead,
go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." ~ Ralph Waldo
Emerson
Celebrate Life

Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:23:45 -0400
From: Glenn Peters <gpeters@ll.mit.edu>
Subject: plant tissue testing

Hello: well for the 3rd season in a row my plants have been affected by
what appears to be a soil disease, i have used this patch for 14 out of my
19 seasons, so i would expect problems, the problem has not affected my
squash plant (knock on wood) but in the past it was only a matter of time,
bio shield was applied but seemed to have no effect? also my field pumpkins 
have not been affected in the past?
i would like to have the plant tissue tested if anyone knows a good
reputable place that wont cost an arm/leg?
thanks

Glenn Peters
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:03:26 -0400
From: Stephen Jepsen <ctpumpkin@optonline.net>
Subject: RE: plant tissue testing

Glenn,

Bacterial inoculants only shift the good guys in your favor temporarily
(about 2-3 weeks). But the bad guys often do gain the upper hand as the
season progresses. After so many years in the same soil, the background
levels of pathogenic inoculum are too high to rely exclusively on
Trichoderma.

Depending on the soil borne disease, you would probably need to make every
other week drenches of a conventional fungicide.

First you would need to know which disease is affecting the plants.
I think that UMass (aren't you in Mass?) offers free pathological tests for 
home gardeners. Most cooperative extension offices have a pathology dept.
Check the blue pages of the phone book.

Steve


Stephen Jepsen
CT GS&PGA President

Grow 'Em BIG



- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of 
Glenn Peters
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 10:24 AM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: plant tissue testing

Hello: well for the 3rd season in a row my plants have been affected by
what appears to be a soil disease, i have used this patch for 14 out of my
19 seasons, so i would expect problems, the problem has not affected my
squash plant (knock on wood) but in the past it was only a matter of time,
bio shield was applied but seemed to have no effect? also my field pumpkins 
have not been affected in the past?
i would like to have the plant tissue tested if anyone knows a good
reputable place that wont cost an arm/leg?
thanks

Glenn Peters
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:27:29 -0500
From: George & Carolyn Heyne <gheyne@millcomm.com>
Subject: Re: first year grower

Becky,

I pound six foot metal stakes into the ground and stretch and tie (using
electrical ties) a 6x8 or 8x10 foot tarps between the stakes in a lean
to fashion. This helps keep the sun and rain off the pumpkins and keeps
the ground under the pumpkin dry. After each stake is set in the ground,
I tie one corner of the tarp to it. That way, I can keep the tarp fairly
tight when I build the lean to. The high end of the cover is on the
blossom end side of the pumpkin. This allows you to crawl under the tarp
and inspect the pumpkin. This is just one way of many to protect the
pumpkins from sun and rain.

George Heyne
Rochester, MN

Becky Black wrote:


What do we shade them with?  When the plants were young we used storm
window tee pees to protect them from the wind, but the plants are huge
now...

We planted 12, and never dreamed they would all make it, but they have.

Honestly we haven't traced the vine for the green one.  We know where
most of the others come from and have pulled the blooms so that we only
get the one pumpkin on each main vine, but the green came out of no
where a few weeks ago.  We'll have to check to see if it has any pale
yellows on the same vine. We do have both yellow stem and green stems,
but the pumpkins are still light peach.

Don't know about the genetic lines of the seeds we got...first
year...just happy to have lots of big pumpkins.  I have attached a
couple pictures.  Any advice is appreciated.  Thanks for your time.

Becky Black
Plattsburg, Missouri

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type multipart/appledouble]

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type multipart/appledouble]
"Do not go where the path may lead,
go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." ~ Ralph Waldo
Emerson
Celebrate Life

On Jul 9, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Stephen Jepsen wrote:




Shading the pumpkins is a good idea.

How many plants does he have going?

Is that green one is on the same plant as the pale yellows?


There have been certain genetic lines (900 Lyons comes to mind) that
would
produce green (squash) or orange (pumpkin) on the same plant but it
isn't a
common trait.

Stephen Jepsen
CT GS&PGA President

Grow 'Em BIG



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
Behalf Of
Becky Black
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:45 AM
To: owner-pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: first year grower

Hello,

I subscribed to your list when my son became interested in giant
pumpkins as a 4-H project.  He is growing Atlantic Giants and has
several nice sized pumpkins already. (we are in Missouri)  He started
them inside and transplanted them later in hopes he'd have one for the
State fair in August.  (we'll see)  We had one of the pumpkins come on
Green, with a watermelon type stripe.  All the others are light peach
in color.  Most are larger than a beach ball.  What is the green one?
Should we pick it off?  It's about the size of a basketball.

Also, do we need to shade the pumpkins, I didn't know if they "burned"?

Love reading your tips!
Thanks!!!

Have a Great Day!

Becky Black
Plattsburg, Missouri






"Do not go where the path may lead,
go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." ~ Ralph Waldo
Emerson
Celebrate Life

Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 13:26:17 -0500
From: Becky Black <leader@centurytel.net>
Subject: Re: first year grower

What do we shade them with?  When the plants were young we used storm
window tee pees to protect them from the wind, but the plants are huge
now...

We planted 12, and never dreamed they would all make it, but they have.

Honestly we haven't traced the vine for the green one.  We know where
most of the others come from and have pulled the blooms so that we only
get the one pumpkin on each main vine, but the green came out of no
where a few weeks ago.  We'll have to check to see if it has any pale
yellows on the same vine. We do have both yellow stem and green stems,
but the pumpkins are still light peach.

Don't know about the genetic lines of the seeds we got...first
year...just happy to have lots of big pumpkins.  I have attached a
couple pictures.  Any advice is appreciated.  Thanks for your time.

Becky Black
Plattsburg, Missouri

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type multipart/appledouble]

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type multipart/appledouble]
"Do not go where the path may lead,
go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." ~ Ralph Waldo
Emerson
Celebrate Life

On Jul 9, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Stephen Jepsen wrote:


Shading the pumpkins is a good idea.

How many plants does he have going?

Is that green one is on the same plant as the pale yellows?


There have been certain genetic lines (900 Lyons comes to mind) that
would
produce green (squash) or orange (pumpkin) on the same plant but it
isn't a
common trait.

Stephen Jepsen
CT GS&PGA President

Grow 'Em BIG



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
Behalf Of
Becky Black
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:45 AM
To: owner-pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: first year grower

Hello,

I subscribed to your list when my son became interested in giant
pumpkins as a 4-H project.  He is growing Atlantic Giants and has
several nice sized pumpkins already. (we are in Missouri)  He started
them inside and transplanted them later in hopes he'd have one for the
State fair in August.  (we'll see)  We had one of the pumpkins come on
Green, with a watermelon type stripe.  All the others are light peach
in color.  Most are larger than a beach ball.  What is the green one?
Should we pick it off?  It's about the size of a basketball.

Also, do we need to shade the pumpkins, I didn't know if they "burned"?

Love reading your tips!
Thanks!!!

Have a Great Day!

Becky Black
Plattsburg, Missouri






"Do not go where the path may lead,
go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." ~ Ralph Waldo
Emerson
Celebrate Life

Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 11:35:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shannon Dressler <lauralie1978@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: seasonal perils correction

You may have Western Conifer Seed Bugs.
They only harm the pine trees. Check out this site and see if you can identify it. http://whatsthatbug.com/true_bugs.html 
Curt Mearns <curtm@swcp.com> wrote:  Sorry folks
What I have is some version of The squash bug

(/Anasa tristis/), not the beetle.
Stinks like crazy when you squish it. Sea foam green body fluid. Yuch!
This links to a pretty good picture of what I have...
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/hs233

Thanks for continued comments.
Curt

Curt Mearns wrote:


Greetings all,

I have a few questions about this big pumpkin hobby of mine.

1) How common is it to loose your whole crop?
I had beginners luck 1 out of 4 years.

2) Can you win the squash beetle war?
I have been carefully inspecting twice a day: squishing beetles and
scraping eggs.

3) What is your favorite method to combat bacterial wilt?
I suppose I could read the archives. I am a fan of organic
techniques, but not exclusively. This year effective is critical.

Thanks in advance for your comments.
Grow'em Gordo
Curt
Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA

Shannon Marie
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:46:07 -0400
From: Stephen Jepsen <ctpumpkin@optonline.net>
Subject: RE: first year grower

Good for you Becky!

Some of us get so hung up in the matters of competitive growing we lose
sight of the "fun factor". BTW, I'm still a fun grower too!

When they're tiny, a white resin table is fine.
When they get basketball to beach ball size, a worn out beach umbrella is
good but make sure to watch for wind events.
Monster fruit deserve their own digs. Some folks build 2x4 frames on which
they attach anything from poly-woven tarps to old tents or even parachutes. 
I've been OK with hammering rebar into the ground onto which is arced
galvanized conduit or even PVC pipe.
Spring clamps are  handy for keeping the tarps in place once the frame is
established.



Stephen Jepsen
CT GS&PGA President

Grow 'Em BIG



- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of 
Becky Black
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 2:26 PM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: first year grower

What do we shade them with?  When the plants were young we used storm
window tee pees to protect them from the wind, but the plants are huge
now...

We planted 12, and never dreamed they would all make it, but they have.

Honestly we haven't traced the vine for the green one.  We know where
most of the others come from and have pulled the blooms so that we only
get the one pumpkin on each main vine, but the green came out of no
where a few weeks ago.  We'll have to check to see if it has any pale
yellows on the same vine. We do have both yellow stem and green stems,
but the pumpkins are still light peach.

Don't know about the genetic lines of the seeds we got...first
year...just happy to have lots of big pumpkins.  I have attached a
couple pictures.  Any advice is appreciated.  Thanks for your time.

Becky Black
Plattsburg, Missouri

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type multipart/appledouble]

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type multipart/appledouble]
"Do not go where the path may lead,
go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." ~ Ralph Waldo
Emerson
Celebrate Life

On Jul 9, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Stephen Jepsen wrote:


Shading the pumpkins is a good idea.

How many plants does he have going?

Is that green one is on the same plant as the pale yellows?


There have been certain genetic lines (900 Lyons comes to mind) that
would
produce green (squash) or orange (pumpkin) on the same plant but it
isn't a
common trait.

Stephen Jepsen
CT GS&PGA President

Grow 'Em BIG



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
Behalf Of
Becky Black
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:45 AM
To: owner-pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: first year grower

Hello,

I subscribed to your list when my son became interested in giant
pumpkins as a 4-H project.  He is growing Atlantic Giants and has
several nice sized pumpkins already. (we are in Missouri)  He started
them inside and transplanted them later in hopes he'd have one for the
State fair in August.  (we'll see)  We had one of the pumpkins come on
Green, with a watermelon type stripe.  All the others are light peach
in color.  Most are larger than a beach ball.  What is the green one?
Should we pick it off?  It's about the size of a basketball.

Also, do we need to shade the pumpkins, I didn't know if they "burned"?

Love reading your tips!
Thanks!!!

Have a Great Day!

Becky Black
Plattsburg, Missouri






"Do not go where the path may lead,
go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." ~ Ralph Waldo
Emerson
Celebrate Life

Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 13:15:18 -0800
From: "kathie morgan" <fishrap@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: first year grower

Hi Guys!
Instead of ties, David and I use those handy clamps instead of ties. They
work great.
- --


- ----------

From: George & Carolyn Heyne <gheyne@millcomm.com>
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: first year grower
Date: Mon, Jul 9, 2007, 10:27 AM




Becky,

I pound six foot metal stakes into the ground and stretch and tie (using
electrical ties) a 6x8 or 8x10 foot tarps between the stakes in a lean
to fashion. This helps keep the sun and rain off the pumpkins and keeps
the ground under the pumpkin dry. After each stake is set in the ground,
I tie one corner of the tarp to it. That way, I can keep the tarp fairly
tight when I build the lean to. The high end of the cover is on the
blossom end side of the pumpkin. This allows you to crawl under the tarp
and inspect the pumpkin. This is just one way of many to protect the
pumpkins from sun and rain.

George Heyne
Rochester, MN

Becky Black wrote:


What do we shade them with?  When the plants were young we used storm
window tee pees to protect them from the wind, but the plants are huge
now...

We planted 12, and never dreamed they would all make it, but they have.

Honestly we haven't traced the vine for the green one.  We know where
most of the others come from and have pulled the blooms so that we only
get the one pumpkin on each main vine, but the green came out of no
where a few weeks ago.  We'll have to check to see if it has any pale
yellows on the same vine. We do have both yellow stem and green stems,
but the pumpkins are still light peach.

Don't know about the genetic lines of the seeds we got...first
year...just happy to have lots of big pumpkins.  I have attached a
couple pictures.  Any advice is appreciated.  Thanks for your time.

Becky Black
Plattsburg, Missouri

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type multipart/appledouble]

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type multipart/appledouble]
"Do not go where the path may lead,
go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." ~ Ralph Waldo
Emerson
Celebrate Life

On Jul 9, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Stephen Jepsen wrote:




Shading the pumpkins is a good idea.

How many plants does he have going?

Is that green one is on the same plant as the pale yellows?


There have been certain genetic lines (900 Lyons comes to mind) that
would
produce green (squash) or orange (pumpkin) on the same plant but it
isn't a
common trait.

Stephen Jepsen
CT GS&PGA President

Grow 'Em BIG



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
Behalf Of
Becky Black
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:45 AM
To: owner-pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: first year grower

Hello,

I subscribed to your list when my son became interested in giant
pumpkins as a 4-H project.  He is growing Atlantic Giants and has
several nice sized pumpkins already. (we are in Missouri)  He started
them inside and transplanted them later in hopes he'd have one for the
State fair in August.  (we'll see)  We had one of the pumpkins come on
Green, with a watermelon type stripe.  All the others are light peach
in color.  Most are larger than a beach ball.  What is the green one?
Should we pick it off?  It's about the size of a basketball.

Also, do we need to shade the pumpkins, I didn't know if they "burned"?

Love reading your tips!
Thanks!!!

Have a Great Day!

Becky Black
Plattsburg, Missouri






"Do not go where the path may lead,
go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." ~ Ralph Waldo
Emerson
Celebrate Life

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