RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #59

Hey again everyone,

Thanks for all the great hints. I went out and got triazicide, imiqimod sp?,
and permethrin and blasted everything in sight.

Hope it works.



Rich Briggs in St. louis





> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:01:05 -0400
> From: pumpkins-owner@hort.net
> To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
> Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #59
>
>
> pumpkins DIGEST Sunday, July 12 2009 Volume 01 : Number 059
>
>
>
> In this issue:
>
> RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
> Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
> RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:42:58 -0500
> From: Richard Briggs <briggsrichard@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
>
> Hi Again,
>
> Thanks for the thoughts Steve. I looked on the internet and didn't really
see
> any pictures that looked like what is going on with my pumkins BUT I was
out
> pruning and discovered some type of worm in one of the stems. Looks like it
> leaves the same gunk that corn worms leave on corn so I Sevin-ed them up
> really good. Hope that works. It's just that it rained a few hours later and
I
> may need to re-apply.
> That brings up the question- What's you all's favorite pumkin pesticied??
> Sevin- Malathione?? I'd love to hear personal experiences from any and all
> growers.
> Thanks,
>
> Rich Briggs in St. Louis
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:01:04 -0400
> > From: pumpkins-owner@hort.net
> > To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
> > Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
> >
> >
> > pumpkins DIGEST Saturday, July 11 2009 Volume 01 : Number 058
> >
> >
> >
> > In this issue:
> >
> > RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> > RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:04:08 -0500
> > From: Richard Briggs <briggsrichard@hotmail.com>
> > Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> >
> > Hey Folks,
> >
> > Little problem- I've got a couple of plants getting yellow at the main
vine
> > and the yellow is spreading out from the innermost leaves ->outward. Then
> the
> > outer vines get healthy green looking again after a few feet. Am I over
> > watering? Getting a fungus? I don't see any insects. The affected leaves
> get
> > yellow, then brown around the edges and finally look like they might die.
> Wish
> > I could include a picture.
> >
> > I have culled a bunch of prospects on secondaries and I'm thinking of
> pruning
> > all the secondaries back to 5-6 feet long. Is that okay? Any longer or
> shorter
> > on secondaries in your opinions????
> >
> > How much vine should I let grow beyond a pumpkin? Is it okay to cull all
> but
> > the end ones so there is more main vine to nourish the pumpkin, Or should
I
> > let a length of vine grow beyond a good prospect??
> >
> > Thanks for the advice folks. I just hope I didn't cull too many already.
> I've
> > got 10 plants and have taken off about 15 "punklets."
> >
> > Any advice is truly appreciated.
> >
> > Rich Briggs in St. Louis
> > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:40:28 -0400
> > From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
> > Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> >
> > I have the exact same thing going on. I cut back on the N hoping I just
> > overfertilized. I watered a lot and it seems to be helping.
> >
> > Steve Haberman
> >
> >
> > - -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of
> > Richard Briggs
> > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:04 AM
> > To: pumpkin
> > Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> >
> > Hey Folks,
> >
> > Little problem- I've got a couple of plants getting yellow at the main
vine
> > and the yellow is spreading out from the innermost leaves ->outward. Then
> > the outer vines get healthy green looking again after a few feet. Am I
over
> > watering? Getting a fungus? I don't see any insects. The affected leaves
> get
> > yellow, then brown around the edges and finally look like they might die.
> > Wish I could include a picture.
> >
> > I have culled a bunch of prospects on secondaries and I'm thinking of
> > pruning all the secondaries back to 5-6 feet long. Is that okay? Any
longer
> > or shorter on secondaries in your opinions????
> >
> > How much vine should I let grow beyond a pumpkin? Is it okay to cull all
> > but the end ones so there is more main vine to nourish the pumpkin, Or
> > should I let a length of vine grow beyond a good prospect??
> >
> > Thanks for the advice folks. I just hope I didn't cull too many already.
> > I've got 10 plants and have taken off about 15 "punklets."
> >
> > Any advice is truly appreciated.
> >
> > Rich Briggs in St. Louis
> >
> > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Pumpkin-growing archives: http://www.hort.net/lists/pumpkins/
> > To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@hort.net with the message
> > text UNSUBSCRIBE PUMPKINS
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> > End of pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
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> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 06:28:07 -0400
> From: Bart Toftness <toftness@mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
>
> Sounds like the squash vine bore moth (SVB). What your finding is the
> larva. The moth lays single eggs on the vines which hatch and bore into
> the vines where they destroy the insides and cause that vine to fail.
> Sevin won't do much for them. The brown/orange stuff you see on the
> vine is frass. It's their waste. It is at the entry hole so there will
> be a larva in the vine near by. You can slice the vine open and remove
> them but its better to prevent the entry first. Look for Triazicide
> (sp) which can be found at Lowe's. Spray the vines to kill the svb moth
> before they lay the eggs. It should also work for the squash bugs (aka
> stink bugs) which lay groups of reddish brown eggs on the under sides of
> the leaves.
>
> Bart
>
> Richard Briggs wrote:
> > Hi Again,
> >
> > Thanks for the thoughts Steve. I looked on the internet and didn't really
see
> > any pictures that looked like what is going on with my pumkins BUT I was
out
> > pruning and discovered some type of worm in one of the stems. Looks like
it
> > leaves the same gunk that corn worms leave on corn so I Sevin-ed them up
> > really good. Hope that works. It's just that it rained a few hours later
and I
> > may need to re-apply.
> > That brings up the question- What's you all's favorite pumkin pesticied??
> > Sevin- Malathione?? I'd love to hear personal experiences from any and
all
> > growers.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rich Briggs in St. Louis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:01:04 -0400
> >> From: pumpkins-owner@hort.net
> >> To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
> >> Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
> >>
> >>
> >> pumpkins DIGEST Saturday, July 11 2009 Volume 01 : Number 058
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> In this issue:
> >>
> >> RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> >> RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:04:08 -0500
> >> From: Richard Briggs <briggsrichard@hotmail.com>
> >> Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> >>
> >> Hey Folks,
> >>
> >> Little problem- I've got a couple of plants getting yellow at the main
vine
> >> and the yellow is spreading out from the innermost leaves ->outward.
Then
> > the
> >> outer vines get healthy green looking again after a few feet. Am I over
> >> watering? Getting a fungus? I don't see any insects. The affected leaves
> > get
> >> yellow, then brown around the edges and finally look like they might
die.
> > Wish
> >> I could include a picture.
> >>
> >> I have culled a bunch of prospects on secondaries and I'm thinking of
> > pruning
> >> all the secondaries back to 5-6 feet long. Is that okay? Any longer or
> > shorter
> >> on secondaries in your opinions????
> >>
> >> How much vine should I let grow beyond a pumpkin? Is it okay to cull all
> > but
> >> the end ones so there is more main vine to nourish the pumpkin, Or should
I
> >> let a length of vine grow beyond a good prospect??
> >>
> >> Thanks for the advice folks. I just hope I didn't cull too many already.
> > I've
> >> got 10 plants and have taken off about 15 "punklets."
> >>
> >> Any advice is truly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Rich Briggs in St. Louis
> >> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:40:28 -0400
> >> From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
> >> Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> >>
> >> I have the exact same thing going on. I cut back on the N hoping I just
> >> overfertilized. I watered a lot and it seems to be helping.
> >>
> >> Steve Haberman
> >>
> >>
> >> - -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of
> >> Richard Briggs
> >> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:04 AM
> >> To: pumpkin
> >> Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> >>
> >> Hey Folks,
> >>
> >> Little problem- I've got a couple of plants getting yellow at the main
vine
> >> and the yellow is spreading out from the innermost leaves ->outward.
Then
> >> the outer vines get healthy green looking again after a few feet. Am I
over
> >> watering? Getting a fungus? I don't see any insects. The affected leaves
> > get
> >> yellow, then brown around the edges and finally look like they might
die.
> >> Wish I could include a picture.
> >>
> >> I have culled a bunch of prospects on secondaries and I'm thinking of
> >> pruning all the secondaries back to 5-6 feet long. Is that okay? Any
longer
> >> or shorter on secondaries in your opinions????
> >>
> >> How much vine should I let grow beyond a pumpkin? Is it okay to cull all
> >> but the end ones so there is more main vine to nourish the pumpkin, Or
> >> should I let a length of vine grow beyond a good prospect??
> >>
> >> Thanks for the advice folks. I just hope I didn't cull too many already.
> >> I've got 10 plants and have taken off about 15 "punklets."
> >>
> >> Any advice is truly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Rich Briggs in St. Louis
> >>
> >> - ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Pumpkin-growing archives: http://www.hort.net/lists/pumpkins/
> >> To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@hort.net with the message
> >> text UNSUBSCRIBE PUMPKINS
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
> >> http://www.eset.com
> >> End of pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
> >> *****************************
> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:07:03 -0400
> From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
> Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
>
> I agree Bart, SVB. They are the spawn of Satin. Hit the rest of your plants
> with Triazicide Richard. If you can prevent them from invasion from the
> start it is best. When the season is over, burn your vines to prevent any
> larvae from burrowing in your patch for the winter.
> As far as yellowing, I think you and I were overfertilizing. SVB will
> usually just cause wilting of a normally healthy looking plant. I cut back
> on the N and my girls greened right back up.
> Good luck Richard, spray the rest of your patch until August.
>
>
> Steve Haberman
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
> Bart Toftness
> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 6:28 AM
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
>
> Sounds like the squash vine bore moth (SVB). What your finding is the
> larva. The moth lays single eggs on the vines which hatch and bore into the
> vines where they destroy the insides and cause that vine to fail.
> Sevin won't do much for them. The brown/orange stuff you see on the vine is
> frass. It's their waste. It is at the entry hole so there will be a larva
> in the vine near by. You can slice the vine open and remove them but its
> better to prevent the entry first. Look for Triazicide
> (sp) which can be found at Lowe's. Spray the vines to kill the svb moth
> before they lay the eggs. It should also work for the squash bugs (aka
> stink bugs) which lay groups of reddish brown eggs on the under sides of
the
> leaves.
>
> Bart
>
> Richard Briggs wrote:
> > Hi Again,
> >
> > Thanks for the thoughts Steve. I looked on the internet and didn't
> > really see any pictures that looked like what is going on with my
> > pumkins BUT I was out pruning and discovered some type of worm in one
> > of the stems. Looks like it leaves the same gunk that corn worms leave
> > on corn so I Sevin-ed them up really good. Hope that works. It's just
> > that it rained a few hours later and I may need to re-apply.
> > That brings up the question- What's you all's favorite pumkin pesticied??
> > Sevin- Malathione?? I'd love to hear personal experiences from any and
> all
> > growers.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rich Briggs in St. Louis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:01:04 -0400
> >> From: pumpkins-owner@hort.net
> >> To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
> >> Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
> >>
> >>
> >> pumpkins DIGEST Saturday, July 11 2009 Volume 01 : Number
> 058
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> In this issue:
> >>
> >> RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> >> RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> -
> >>
> >> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:04:08 -0500
> >> From: Richard Briggs <briggsrichard@hotmail.com>
> >> Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> >>
> >> Hey Folks,
> >>
> >> Little problem- I've got a couple of plants getting yellow at the
> >> main vine and the yellow is spreading out from the innermost leaves
> >> ->outward. Then
> > the
> >> outer vines get healthy green looking again after a few feet. Am I
> >> over watering? Getting a fungus? I don't see any insects. The
> >> affected leaves
> > get
> >> yellow, then brown around the edges and finally look like they might
die.
> > Wish
> >> I could include a picture.
> >>
> >> I have culled a bunch of prospects on secondaries and I'm thinking of
> > pruning
> >> all the secondaries back to 5-6 feet long. Is that okay? Any longer
> >> or
> > shorter
> >> on secondaries in your opinions????
> >>
> >> How much vine should I let grow beyond a pumpkin? Is it okay to cull
> >> all
> > but
> >> the end ones so there is more main vine to nourish the pumpkin, Or
> >> should I let a length of vine grow beyond a good prospect??
> >>
> >> Thanks for the advice folks. I just hope I didn't cull too many already.
> > I've
> >> got 10 plants and have taken off about 15 "punklets."
> >>
> >> Any advice is truly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Rich Briggs in St. Louis
> >> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:40:28 -0400
> >> From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
> >> Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> >>
> >> I have the exact same thing going on. I cut back on the N hoping I
> >> just overfertilized. I watered a lot and it seems to be helping.
> >>
> >> Steve Haberman
> >>
> >>
> >> - -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> >> Behalf Of Richard Briggs
> >> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:04 AM
> >> To: pumpkin
> >> Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> >>
> >> Hey Folks,
> >>
> >> Little problem- I've got a couple of plants getting yellow at the
> >> main vine and the yellow is spreading out from the innermost leaves
> >> ->outward. Then the outer vines get healthy green looking again after
> >> a few feet. Am I over watering? Getting a fungus? I don't see any
> >> insects. The affected leaves
> > get
> >> yellow, then brown around the edges and finally look like they might
die.
> >> Wish I could include a picture.
> >>
> >> I have culled a bunch of prospects on secondaries and I'm thinking of
> >> pruning all the secondaries back to 5-6 feet long. Is that okay? Any
> >> longer or shorter on secondaries in your opinions????
> >>
> >> How much vine should I let grow beyond a pumpkin? Is it okay to cull
> >> all but the end ones so there is more main vine to nourish the
> >> pumpkin, Or should I let a length of vine grow beyond a good prospect??
> >>
> >> Thanks for the advice folks. I just hope I didn't cull too many already.
> >> I've got 10 plants and have taken off about 15 "punklets."
> >>
> >> Any advice is truly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Rich Briggs in St. Louis
> >>
> >> -
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> __________ NOD32 4219 (20090705) Information __________
> >>
> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
> >> http://www.eset.com
> >> End of pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
> >> *****************************
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