Re: Heavy rains
- Subject: Re: Heavy rains
- From: D* R* <y*@att.net>
- Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 21:36:09 -0700 (PDT)
I am having a premature senior moment: I should ice if going to be >90 or ice
after pollinating if temps greater than 70? How long do I cool the female and
shade it? What happens if you forget to cover the male and female the night
before?
Debbie
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From: "dbhaskaran@aol.com" <dbhaskaran@aol.com>
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 8:10:55 AM
Subject: Re: Heavy rains
Hi Debbie,
I've grown pumpkins since 1970, so I'm pretty good at getting the females and
males the night before they open...but can be tricky...I usually look for a
"oranging" of the blossom. As you learn, you'll get better.
No on the anything over 70 gets ice...any day that is over 90. Yes, Styrofoam
over the blossom would keep it cooler and better.
I was just saying if the morning temps are 70, you can pollinate early...you
can still wait awhile..should be good for a few hours...but normally if the
morning temps are in the 70s...going to need the cooler...unless it stays in
the 70s and 80s.
Yes, if temp >90 keep cool till the air temp is back down.
David Bhaskaran
Rochester, MN.
-----Original Message-----
From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Sent: Thu, Jul 8, 2010 7:27 am
Subject: Re: Heavy rains
Interesting. How do you know when the female is ready to open the next day?
nything over 70 get's ice? Is the ice under a Styrofoam cooler? And if it is
uppose to be up in the mid- 80's keep the cooler on until evening?
Debbie
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rom: "dbhaskaran@aol.com" <dbhaskaran@aol.com>
o: pumpkins@hort.net
ent: Wed, July 7, 2010 10:53:06 PM
ubject: Re: Heavy rains
Debbie,
es, you will need to always cover the female and 3 males the night before!
with glad bags).
have pollinated during a pouring rain...the key is to insure it stays dry
uring pollination and then using glad bags....keeping it dry for at least
4hrs. Here are somethings I do if it is an important set:
or Rain:
- Use an umbrella
or Cold Mornings:
- Wait till the temp gets up a bit >60 degrees...you can tell by the pollen
n the male or use more males.
- The goal is to cover all the segments with lots of pollen from head to
oe.
or Hot Mornings:
- get it early...I've done them at 5:30am if the temp is 70
- put ice around the bloom and let it melt into the soil will help keep the
rea cooler.
- Pumpkins won't set in hot weather...I'm guessing >90 degrees...so need to
eep cooler.
Good luck
avid Bhaskaran
ochester, MN
----Original Message-----
rom: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
o: pumpkins@hort.net
ent: Wed, Jul 7, 2010 10:05 pm
ubject: Re: Heavy rains
nother question - does the weather affect your decision to pollinate? If it
s
uppose to rain on the morning you are pollinating, does that cause problems?
you need to cover both the male and females with cups the night before?
ebbie
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om: Kathie Morgan <fishrap@att.net>
: pumpkins@hort.net
nt: Wed, July 7, 2010 6:37:20 PM
bject: Re: Heavy rains
check it after one day. Usually the blossom has closed up by then.
his year for an unknown reason I have to leave them on for two days before
he
ossom closes.
'll let someone else tackle the rest of your questions.
athie
n Jul 7, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Debbie Runkle wrote:
Kathie, you mentioned that you use Dixie cups over the flower after
ollination. How long do you leave the cup on?
How long before females form on the vine? I transplanted 5/25/2001 and only
ave two females on the main, one of which just 'hatched'. I have used
5-30-15
wice, the second time was yesterday. How long will the secondaries grow
efore
hey produce females?
ebbie
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rom: Kathie Morgan <fishrap@att.net>
o: pumpkins@hort.net
ent: Sun, June 27, 2010 1:12:22 PM
ubject: Re: Heavy rains
On Jun 27, 2010, at 8:40 AM, Jason Thomas wrote:
> You can tie the female bloom closed with twine or a twisty tie before it
opens. Most growers do that so they can control the source of pollen that
goes in.
Hi Guys!
Mr Al Eaton told us that he uses Dixie cups to cover his females after
ollination. We tried it and it's perfect. Just use one hand to gather the
etals together, then use the other hand to ease the cup down over the
ossom.
e use 16-ounce cups.
Kathie in Santa Rosa
That would keep water out to a certain extent too. You could put up
a small piece of tarp (like 1sq ft) with some bamboo stakes over the
lower,
especially after you pollinate. You can cut or tear small holes in the
corolla below the stigma or anther in both female and male flowers to help
them drain after a rain. I used to do that when I had my plants growing out
over the lawn where they would get sprinkled every morning. But only use
that method on female flowers if you don't care about stray pollen getting
in. How hot is it there? I've found once it gets hot enough (100+) here
flowers wont pollinate even if the flowers are cooled. However in the 80s
and 90s they will pollinate but only if I cool them by putting a small
styrofoam cooler upside down over the flower the night before opening with
frozen water bottle inside for cooling. The styrofoam cooler method will
also keep the rain out but you only want to use it for a day or two because
you don't want to encourage rot.
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Jeff Potter
<maple-leaf@kpe.biglobe.ne.jp>wrote:
> I live in southern Japan, and have been trying to grow pumpkins, ANY SIZE
> pumpkins, for several years, with no luck. I didn't really put much effort
> into it, just planted and waited, not really knowing what I was doing.
> I got the giant pumpkin bug when I received some seeds from the local
> champion, a 200 kger.I've done some studying, finally got a copy of Don
> Langevin's Giant Pumpkins II, did what I could with the soil in the
pring,
> planted both in pots and directly, and have got some amazing, big,
> healthy-looking plants. I have a lot of male flowers, and several females
> not
> yet bloomed. I am out at 5:00am every morning just in case. In Don's book,
> he
> says I will know when the flower is ready to bloom, but I am not so sure.
> My
> problem is, we have a major rainy season here in Asia, it has rained
> heavily
> for 2 straight days, with a forecast for more, until Thursday. My question
> is,
> how can I protect my ladies, will the heavy rain have an effect on them
> even
> if they do not open, and if they do, can I pollinate them in the rain.
>
> Thanks, first time poster,
>
> Jeff
>
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