RE: pollinating and terminating

Thanks Wayne.
My wife and friends make fun of my patch all of the time. I have 2 separate
patches 150ftx75ft. Since that wasn't enough, I plowed and disked another by
the barn.....200x200. I planted field punks in it but will begin the soil
building process for AG's next year. Sorry about no fruit. I've been there
before!
Steve
P.S. Grew up in Colorado. My Dad hasn't missed a home game since 1972.

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Wayne S. Moore
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:28 AM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: pollinating and terminating

LOL...great advice, Steve except for the rooting for the Bronco's part!!!
PS...I have large growing area, prbly too large, as once again I will have 
NO Pkn!!! Heat is my excuse this year!!! LOL Peace, Wayne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:41 PM
Subject: RE: pollinating and terminating


> Deb,
> No.
> Everything is going to be OK. Mix 2 parts tequila, one part triple sec, 
> one
> part sweet and sour and (yes .. I will give up one secret) one part apple
> juice. Drink until gone. Repeat. Put it in perspective. The world economy 
> is
> about to collapse. Iran has nukes. Our politicians are dirt bags. The gulf
> is full of oil. Socialism is inevitable. Unemployment is 10%. The Denver
> Broncos drafted Tim Tebow.
> Steve Haberman
>
> Go Broncos! Orange! Orange! Orange!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf 
> Of
> Debbie Runkle
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 2:22 PM
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Subject: Re: pollinating and terminating
>
> Does everyone have large growing areas other than their backyard????
>
> I saw a cuke beetle this morning on a sunflower in the middle of my 
> zucchini
>
> plant.  I sprayed Ortho Max on Sat.  Do I need to be worried?
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: tlchap chapman <tlchap@msn.com>
> To: pumpkin pumpkin <pumpkins@hort.net>
> Sent: Mon, July 19, 2010 12:37:46 PM
> Subject: RE: pollinating and terminating
>
> hahah....thanks for the funny story and the new vine dance steps ! I enjoy
> reading all the blogs.
>
> I do have 4 pumpkins growing, average size, and lots of vines tangled
> everywhere.  I am growning in an
>
> old cow pen, next to the watering hole...I am at the wait and see stage.
>
> Linka Chapman
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> From: shaberman@insmgt.com
>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>> Subject: RE: pollinating and terminating
>> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:50:35 -0400
>>
>> Deb,
>> When I started growing, I had a very small patch in the back yard of my
>> college-days rental house. I grew vines over grass as you are doing. I
> know
>> that some are not as fortunate to have acreage like we do. However, I
>> personally have found that the secret to this "obsession" as stated
> earlier,
>> is soil. I put an enormous amount of time into testing and conditioning 
>> my
>> soil. Some patches have taken me a couple of years, truckloads of 
>> material
>> and back breaking work (as well as lots of broken tractor parts). I have
>> done OK on grass but if you have the room, till up the ground next year.
>> As far as working in the web of vines......my secret is 6 to 8
>> Budweiser's, followed by Tai Chi tiptoe and cat like dexterity. My kids
> call
>> it Dad's vine boogey.
>> By the way, I always squish a few vines here and there. I am not as
>> light on my feet as I once was.... but I am wiser.
>> Hope you get a big one!
>> Steve Haberman
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
> Of
>> Debbie Runkle
>> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 12:10 AM
>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>> Subject: Re: pollinating and terminating
>>
>> Ok. I'll let the main go another few days. As I have mentioned before, I
>> am
>> growing over grass and am placing soil under the vines as they grow. My
>> main is
>> now approx. 25 feet long and is moving quite rapidly across my yard. It 
>> is
>> now
>> about 6' beyond the female that I pollinated. I have kept it going in the
>> event
>> that the pollination did not take. I would like to terminate soon, but
> also
>> do
>> not want to risk losing the existing pumpkin and not having one on the
> main
>> that
>> I can pollinate later as a backup. My understanding is that the plant
> needs
>> the
>> leaves to convert energy, i.e. keeping the secondaries as long as
> possible.
>>
>> When you let your plant fill in your patch, what is your secret to 
>> walking
>> around in it or between the secondaries?
>>
>>
>> Also, do you mainly water around the stump vs. the vines? I have approx. 
>> 6
>> to 8
>> inches of topsoil over clay. That is very typical for where I live. Let's
>> say
>> you rototill down 6 to 8" and then hit the clay. Do the roots go deep
>> enough to
>> penetrate the clay? Has anyone experimented auguring or using old holes
>> from
>> stakes as a way to water? My thought is depending on how deep the roots
> go,
>> this
>> could be a way of deep watering. Any thoughts?
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Joe Pukos <jpukos@rochester.rr.com>
>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>> Sent: Sun, July 18, 2010 12:31:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: pollinating and terminating
>>
>> Debbie,
>>
>> After a week or so, the new pollinations should be giving you a good
>> indication of which direction they are heading. As long as they have that
>> shiny and new look, that's a good thing. If they start to look dull,
> that's
>> bad and probably means they're not going to make it. If you are growing
>> competitively, setting a fruit on the main is heavily favored over 
>> growing
>> one
>> on a secondary. For sure, all the biggest pumpkins in the world were 
>> grown
>> on
>> the main vine. I like to have my secondaries all terminated by the end of
>> July. At that time, my 750 sq. ft. area for each plant is filled up.
>> Sometimes
>> I terminate my mains and other times, I allow them to grow around the 
>> edge
>> of
>> the patch for the entire season. I've had good luck doing it both ways.
>>
>> Joe Pukos
>>
>> Leicester, NY
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Debbie Runkle" <yorunk13@att.net>
>> To: "pumpkin" <pumpkins@hort.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 11:59 AM
>> Subject: pollinating and terminating
>>
>>
>> >I was wondering how long before you know if a pollination is successful.
> I
>> have
>> > pollinated two on my main, the first aborted (closest to stump). The
>> second
>> one
>> > (next on the vine from the aborted one) is slightly larger than a
>> baseball.
>> > There is a third one after that which was open pollination. I am 
>> > keeping
>> the
>> > main going since I was told that pumpkins growing on the main are 
>> > better
>> than
>> > secondaries. I did pollinate one on the first secondary off the main.
>> When
>> > should I start terminating the main and secondaries? I've been letting
>> > everything keep growing in case something goes wrong.
>> >
>> > Debbie
>> >
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