RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #582


I always wondered if you could put chunks in a still. Pumpkin whiskey
anyone? You bring the truckload of pies Duchess. I'll have the cocktails and
the bluegrass band!
Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Diana Sigel
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 3:16 PM
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #582

Hooray for Steve!  I'm no old pro at this giant pumpkins stuff, this is just
my second year, but last year when people asked me if you could eat them, I
said, "Heck, no!  There's enough poison in and on these babies to kill
anything except cucumber beetles!"  However, if you need a recipe for a
900-lb. pumpkin:

900 single pie crust shellos
225 dozen eggs
84.38 gallons milk
450 pounds sugar
18.75 pounds cinnamon
18.75 pounds ginger
9.38 pounds nutmeg
4.68 pounds cloves
9.38 pounds salt

Bake a really long time.  Serves 5400 to 7200 people.  Tope with whipped
cream
(28 gallons before whipping).

cheers,
duchess of gladstone

--- On Tue, 7/27/10, pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net> wrote:

From: pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net>
Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #582
To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
Date: Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 1:35 AM


pumpkins DIGEST         Tuesday, July 27 2010         Volume 01 : Number 582



In this issue:

        Neem Oil
        Re: Powdery Mildew
        RE: Powdery Mildew
        RE: Powdery Mildew
        Re: Neem Oil
        Re: cuke beetles
        Re: Neem Oil
        Re: cuke beetles
        Re: cuke beetles
        Re: cuke beetles
        Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #577
        Re: Powdery Mildew
        Re: cuke beetles
        Re: cuke beetles
        Re: Neem Oil
        RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #577
        Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #577
        Re: cuke beetles
        Re: Heavy rains
        Re: Heavy rains
        Re: Powdery Mildew

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:27:25 -0400
From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
Subject: Neem Oil

Unless you use Neem Oil for your hair, throw it away. AG's are not typically
eaten, so spray the stuff from Dupont Chemical CO. et all. Just my
experience and opinion.
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:42:06 +0000
From: <rstokes@wi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Powdery Mildew

Unfortunately, there is no silver bullet to controlling powdery mildew.
There
a lot of chemicals that will help control PM.  The problem is that most AG
growers are limited by what they can buy and how affordable it is.  Also,
the
spray equipment has to be able to apply the chemical(s) in an efficient
manner.  That is why the top growers use equipment that can fog or mist in
order to get complete coverage.  Here is a link that I think you will find
of
value: 
http://vegetablemdonline.ppath.cornell.edu/NewsArticles/Cuc_Cntct_Fcides.htm

I use Daconil as a preventative and have had pretty good results.


- ---- Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net> wrote:
> Ron, I believe that 70% Neem Oil will help.
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ron Fine <RonFineEsq@earthlink.net>
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 10:59:03 AM
> Subject: Powdery Mildew
>
> Dear list,
>
> Are there any systemic products to prevent or control  powdery mildew?  I
live
> close to the ocean in Los Angeles, CA and we get a lot of moisture during
the
> nights.  And, we have had an unusual spring and summer of cloudy, damp
> weather.   I have several pumpkins growing but my plants are being wiped
out
> by powdery mildew.  I have tried to use several types of sprays but I
can't
> keep up with the spread and it is very difficult to get to the bottom of
the
> leaves.  I'm afraid that this year my pumpkins will not make it.   Any
> suggestions??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron Fine
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:30:05 -0400
From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
Subject: RE: Powdery Mildew

Thanks for the link. I need all the help I can get for fungi......on my
pumpkins that is.

Steve Haberman

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
rstokes@wi.rr.com
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 2:42 PM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Cc: Debbie Runkle
Subject: Re: Powdery Mildew

Unfortunately, there is no silver bullet to controlling powdery mildew.
There a lot of chemicals that will help control PM.  The problem is that
most AG growers are limited by what they can buy and how affordable it is.
Also, the spray equipment has to be able to apply the chemical(s) in an
efficient manner.  That is why the top growers use equipment that can fog or
mist in order to get complete coverage.  Here is a link that I think you
will find of value:
http://vegetablemdonline.ppath.cornell.edu/NewsArticles/Cuc_Cntct_Fcides.htm
I use Daconil as a preventative and have had pretty good results.


- ---- Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net> wrote:
> Ron, I believe that 70% Neem Oil will help.
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ron Fine <RonFineEsq@earthlink.net>
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 10:59:03 AM
> Subject: Powdery Mildew
>
> Dear list,
>
> Are there any systemic products to prevent or control  powdery mildew?  I
live
> close to the ocean in Los Angeles, CA and we get a lot of moisture during
the
> nights.  And, we have had an unusual spring and summer of cloudy, damp
> weather.   I have several pumpkins growing but my plants are being wiped
out
> by powdery mildew.  I have tried to use several types of sprays but I
can't
> keep up with the spread and it is very difficult to get to the bottom of
the
> leaves.  I'm afraid that this year my pumpkins will not make it.   Any
> suggestions??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron Fine
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:35:24 -0400
From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
Subject: RE: Powdery Mildew

Kathy,
Cool! You are a master pumpkineer in my opinion. My sister and her husband
have grown grapes for Firestone, Shelton (North Carolina) and Stagland
Vineyards. They tell me grapes love "crappy soil". You must do a lot of work
for the results you get. Cheers!
Steve Haberman

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Kathie Morgan
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 12:47 PM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: Powdery Mildew

We use wettable sulphur. We grow in a vineyard and the vineyard owner 
insists on it so as to protect his vines. It works for us.

Good luck!




On Jul 26, 2010, at 8:59 AM, Ron Fine wrote:

> Dear list,
>
> Are there any systemic products to prevent or control  powdery 
> mildew?  I live
> close to the ocean in Los Angeles, CA and we get a lot of moisture 
> during the
> nights.  And, we have had an unusual spring and summer of cloudy, damp
> weather.   I have several pumpkins growing but my plants are being 
> wiped out
> by powdery mildew.  I have tried to use several types of sprays but 
> I can't
> keep up with the spread and it is very difficult to get to the 
> bottom of the
> leaves.  I'm afraid that this year my pumpkins will not make it.   Any
> suggestions??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron Fine
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:59:49 -0700
From: Jason Thomas <j.endlesstrail@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Neem Oil

Some reasons I have to grow organic even though I don't plan on eating the
pumpkins..

My patch is right up against my bedroom window.
My other garden vegetables that I do eat are right next to my pumpkin patch.

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>wrote:

> Unless you use Neem Oil for your hair, throw it away. AG's are not
> typically
> eaten, so spray the stuff from Dupont Chemical CO. et all. Just my
> experience and opinion.
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:27:07 -0700
From: Kathie Morgan <fishrap@att.net>
Subject: Re: cuke beetles

Yes!



On Jul 25, 2010, at 7:44 AM, Debbie Runkle wrote:

> I am seeing more cuke beetles around the plants.  This morning I 
> noticed them in
> the male flowers.  My insecticide program consists of Ortho Max 
> every other week
> with 70% Neem Oil on the off week.  Should I be worried?
>
> Debbie
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:20:40 -0700
From: "Ron Fine" <RonFineEsq@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Neem Oil

I'm growing my in a community garden which is strictly organic.  So, not
only do I have to find the best organic solution, but, I have to put up with
neighbors who let there pumpkins get totally covered with PM before taking
any steps to solve the problem.  I'm sure that my infestation started in
their plot.

Ron
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:55:05 -0700
From: Kathie Morgan <fishrap@att.net>
Subject: Re: cuke beetles

Debbie,

Can you get your hands on a small portable vacuum cleaner? I wouldn't 
use it on the AGs, but if you find cuke beetles elsewhere in the 
patch, gobble them up.

(Then subject them to the agonizing death they deserve.)

Good luck!

Kathie


On Jul 25, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Brian Taylor wrote:

> I've been treating my patch with ortho max and the bayer bug killer 
> mixed at
> the recommended mix every 2 weeks, been keeping them at bay.  I've 
> always
> had fits with squash bugs.  I treated the soil during the soil prep 
> stage
> with grub killer per advice from this group.  with all these 
> chemicals, i've
> seen less pests than I ever have.   I spray of an evening, while the
> blossoms are closed, that way the bees can still do what they need 
> to do.
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net> 
> wrote:
>
>> I am seeing more cuke beetles around the plants.  This morning I 
>> noticed
>> them in
>> the male flowers.  My insecticide program consists of Ortho Max 
>> every other
>> week
>> with 70% Neem Oil on the off week.  Should I be worried?
>>
>> Debbie
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:54:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
Subject: Re: cuke beetles

If it is a systemic, then how long does it take to get into the plant?

Debbie




________________________________
From: Russ Stokes <rstokes@wi.rr.com>
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 6:27:10 PM
Subject: Re: cuke beetles

I have been growing squash, pumpkins, gourds for a long time.  Cucumber
beetles
on your plant is a sure sign that if not treated promptly, more than likely
you
will get bacterial wilt.  The bacteria proliferates while the beetle ingests
from an infected leaf and then passes the disease to the other leaves, until
you
have a stunted dying plant.  Here is what I recommend:
Purchase Bayer Advance Fruit, Citrus and Vegetable Insect Control.  It
contains
Imidacloprid (Merit)  I usually use the recommended dosage, dump this in a 5
gallon bucket and fill the bucket with water.  Then for each plant I slowly
dump
the contents around the base of the plants.  This is a systemic insecticide
so
it usually will kill insects that bite into the plant.  I then thoroughly
spray
the leaves with Triazicide, again I use the recommended rate.  I do all of
this
either in early morning or in the evening.  These two controls works well on
cuke beetle, squash bug and other pests.  Make sure you protect yourself
from
the chemicals by wearing protective clothing or at least where long pants
and
a
shirt with glasses. The chemical in Triazicide is a synthetic pyrethrum and
if
it touches the skin you will feel a burning sensation and itch.  Good Luck.
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:27:10 -0500
From: "Russ Stokes" <rstokes@wi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: cuke beetles

I have been growing squash, pumpkins, gourds for a long time.  Cucumber
beetles on your plant is a sure sign that if not treated promptly, more than
likely you will get bacterial wilt.  The bacteria proliferates while the
beetle ingests from an infected leaf and then passes the disease to the
other leaves, until you have a stunted dying plant.  Here is what I
recommend:
Purchase Bayer Advance Fruit, Citrus and Vegetable Insect Control.  It
contains Imidacloprid (Merit)  I usually use the recommended dosage, dump
this in a 5 gallon bucket and fill the bucket with water.  Then for each
plant I slowly dump the contents around the base of the plants.  This is a
systemic insecticide so it usually will kill insects that bite into the
plant.  I then thoroughly spray the leaves with Triazicide, again I use the
recommended rate.  I do all of this either in early morning or in the
evening.  These two controls works well on cuke beetle, squash bug and other
pests.  Make sure you protect yourself from the chemicals by wearing
protective clothing or at least where long pants and a shirt with glasses.
The chemical in Triazicide is a synthetic pyrethrum and if it touches the
skin you will feel a burning sensation and itch.  Good Luck.
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:56:39 -0400
From: Robert Steckroth <robertsteckroth@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #577

Dang! Check out that 1700 pounder of the front page.
I almost don't think it's real. I guess one could just
post the picture link from that Web Site to here.
http://www.bigpumpkins.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=166&gid=51

    It seems the "pumpkin rust" has stopped spreading
even despite the wet weather so I am gonna give it another week.
I do have 4 or 5 ripe pie pumpkins though! Hmmmmm, pumpkin pie.
I wonder if I could do a mass wood fire pumpkin roast?


On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Kathie Morgan <fishrap@att.net> wrote:

> There is one: BigPumpkins.com.
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 23, 2010, at 8:54 AM, Robert Steckroth wrote:
>
>  HAHAHA That is funny.
>> What do you guys and gals think about a Web Site to upload photos
>> and post messages? If there is interest I can make one by next season.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Diana Sigel
>> <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>>  gee, Steve, I looked at the link you suggested,and I think I have 10 of
>>> the
>>> 14
>>> pumpkin leaf diseases.  But I might be a little bit pumparanoid.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> duchess of gladstone
>>>
>>> --- On Fri, 7/23/10, pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net>
>>> Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #577
>>> To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
>>> Date: Friday, July 23, 2010, 3:01 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> pumpkins DIGEST         Friday, July 23 2010         Volume 01 : Number
>>> 577
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In this issue:
>>>
>>>      RE: Browning, rusty colored everything!
>>>      problem solver
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:39:38 -0400
>>> From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
>>> Subject: RE: Browning, rusty colored everything!
>>>
>>> Fungus.
>>> Use a copper based fungicide, Daconil, or Captan.
>>> Quit watering over the leaves.
>>>
>>> - -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Robert Steckroth
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:01 PM
>>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>>> Subject: Browning, rusty colored everything!
>>>
>>> My pumpkins and watermelon leaves have a rusty color to them and
>>> some of the older leaves are dying. The leaf stalks are browning too.
>>> Is it possible to overwater? On one plant even the hairs are rusty. It
>>> looks
>>> like a yellow ball with red hair, haha. Someone please tell me if this
is
>>> a pre-cursor to disaster.
>>>
>>> - --
>>> *Bringing game to younix*
>>> Bustout ENTRAINMENT  --- PureBreedDefense.com
>>> "Finding the exit without looking"
>>> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:51:39 -0400
>>> From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
>>> Subject: problem solver
>>>
>>> Robert,
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/publications/cucurbitproblemsolver/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve Haberman
>>> End of pumpkins DIGEST V1 #577
>>> ******************************
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> *Bringing game to younix*
>> Bustout ENTRAINMENT  --- PureBreedDefense.com
>> "Finding the exit without looking"
- --
*Bringing game to younix*
Bustout ENTRAINMENT  --- PureBreedDefense.com
"Finding the exit without looking"
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:40:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
Subject: Re: Powdery Mildew

Ron, I believe that 70% Neem Oil will help.

Debbie





________________________________
From: Ron Fine <RonFineEsq@earthlink.net>
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 10:59:03 AM
Subject: Powdery Mildew

Dear list,

Are there any systemic products to prevent or control  powdery mildew?  I
live
close to the ocean in Los Angeles, CA and we get a lot of moisture during
the
nights.  And, we have had an unusual spring and summer of cloudy, damp
weather.   I have several pumpkins growing but my plants are being wiped out
by powdery mildew.  I have tried to use several types of sprays but I can't
keep up with the spread and it is very difficult to get to the bottom of the
leaves.  I'm afraid that this year my pumpkins will not make it.   Any
suggestions??

Thanks,

Ron Fine
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:32:51 -0500
From: "Russ Stokes" <rstokes@wi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: cuke beetles

Per my last post - Spraying in the evening is better than morning, because
of less chance of harming beneficial insects such as bees.
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:10:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
Subject: Re: cuke beetles

If I have been spraying Ortho Max every two weeks, then why am I seeing
them? 
Can I spray Ortho Max every week?

Debbie





________________________________
From: Brian Taylor <brian8t@gmail.com>
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 1:43:15 PM
Subject: Re: cuke beetles

I've been treating my patch with ortho max and the bayer bug killer mixed at
the recommended mix every 2 weeks, been keeping them at bay.  I've always
had fits with squash bugs.  I treated the soil during the soil prep stage
with grub killer per advice from this group.  with all these chemicals, i've
seen less pests than I ever have.   I spray of an evening, while the
blossoms are closed, that way the bees can still do what they need to do.


On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net> wrote:

> I am seeing more cuke beetles around the plants.  This morning I noticed
> them in
> the male flowers.  My insecticide program consists of Ortho Max every
other
> week
> with 70% Neem Oil on the off week.  Should I be worried?
>
> Debbie
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:33:31 -0700
From: Jason Thomas <j.endlesstrail@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Neem Oil

Steve is so right! I thought I could prevent powdery mildew with Neem Oil,
Milk and Compost Tea. I get home today and what was a healthy plant this
morning has powdery mildew. Now I am scrambling to find a way to keep my
plant alive for the next month so I can get my first decent pumpkin.

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>wrote:

> Unless you use Neem Oil for your hair, throw it away. AG's are not
> typically
> eaten, so spray the stuff from Dupont Chemical CO. et all. Just my
> experience and opinion.
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:53:50 -0400
From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #577

LOL! I'm just trying to help. I know how you feel. I have the best fruit of
my life going right now. I can't quit worrying about it. I'm even coming
home for lunch every day just to check on it. I may pitch a tent in the
patch and run an extension cord from the barn for a radio.

Sleepless in Indiana

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Diana Sigel
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 10:14 AM
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #577

gee, Steve, I looked at the link you suggested,and I think I have 10 of the
14
pumpkin leaf diseases.  But I might be a little bit pumparanoid.

cheers,
duchess of gladstone

- --- On Fri, 7/23/10, pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net> wrote:

From: pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net>
Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #577
To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
Date: Friday, July 23, 2010, 3:01 AM


pumpkins DIGEST         Friday, July 23 2010         Volume 01 : Number 577



In this issue:

        RE: Browning, rusty colored everything!
        problem solver

- ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:39:38 -0400
From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
Subject: RE: Browning, rusty colored everything!

Fungus.
Use a copper based fungicide, Daconil, or Captan.
Quit watering over the leaves.

- - -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Robert Steckroth
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:01 PM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Browning, rusty colored everything!

My pumpkins and watermelon leaves have a rusty color to them and
some of the older leaves are dying. The leaf stalks are browning too.
Is it possible to overwater? On one plant even the hairs are rusty. It looks
like a yellow ball with red hair, haha. Someone please tell me if this is
a pre-cursor to disaster.

- - --
*Bringing game to younix*
Bustout ENTRAINMENT  --- PureBreedDefense.com
"Finding the exit without looking"
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:51:39 -0400
From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
Subject: problem solver

Robert,

Hope this helps.

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/publications/cucurbitproblemsolver/



Steve Haberman
End of pumpkins DIGEST V1 #577
******************************
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:12:38 -0500
From: Brian Taylor <brian8t@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #577

A website like that would be great for me.  I like the weedalert.com site
with its pictures and descriptions of weeds by region

Brian T

P.S.  supposed to be 100 degrees today (7/23).  Can't do anything about the
weather...


On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Robert Steckroth <
robertsteckroth@gmail.com> wrote:

> HAHAHA That is funny.
> What do you guys and gals think about a Web Site to upload photos
> and post messages? If there is interest I can make one by next season.
>
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Diana Sigel
> <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> > gee, Steve, I looked at the link you suggested,and I think I have 10 of
> the
> > 14
> > pumpkin leaf diseases.  But I might be a little bit pumparanoid.
> >
> > cheers,
> > duchess of gladstone
> >
> > --- On Fri, 7/23/10, pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net> wrote:
> >
> > From: pumpkins DIGEST <pumpkins-owner@hort.net>
> > Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #577
> > To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
> > Date: Friday, July 23, 2010, 3:01 AM
> >
> >
> > pumpkins DIGEST         Friday, July 23 2010         Volume 01 : Number
> 577
> >
> >
> >
> > In this issue:
> >
> >        RE: Browning, rusty colored everything!
> >        problem solver
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:39:38 -0400
> > From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
> > Subject: RE: Browning, rusty colored everything!
> >
> > Fungus.
> > Use a copper based fungicide, Daconil, or Captan.
> > Quit watering over the leaves.
> >
> > - -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
> > Of
> > Robert Steckroth
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:01 PM
> > To: pumpkins@hort.net
> > Subject: Browning, rusty colored everything!
> >
> > My pumpkins and watermelon leaves have a rusty color to them and
> > some of the older leaves are dying. The leaf stalks are browning too.
> > Is it possible to overwater? On one plant even the hairs are rusty. It
> > looks
> > like a yellow ball with red hair, haha. Someone please tell me if this
is
> > a pre-cursor to disaster.
> >
> > - --
> > *Bringing game to younix*
> > Bustout ENTRAINMENT  --- PureBreedDefense.com
> > "Finding the exit without looking"
> > Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:51:39 -0400
> > From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
> > Subject: problem solver
> >
> > Robert,
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/publications/cucurbitproblemsolver/
> >
> >
> >
> > Steve Haberman
> > End of pumpkins DIGEST V1 #577
> > ******************************
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> *Bringing game to younix*
> Bustout ENTRAINMENT  --- PureBreedDefense.com
> "Finding the exit without looking"
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:52:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
Subject: Re: cuke beetles

I'll pick some up tomorrow and spray tomorrow night.  How about Sevin?  I
think
they may have come from my zucchini plant since that is where I first
noticed
them.  I'm thinking about pulling the zucchini plants to hopefully help the
problem.  Any thoughts?

Debbie





________________________________
From: Russ Stokes <rstokes@wi.rr.com>
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 6:32:51 PM
Subject: Re: cuke beetles

Per my last post - Spraying in the evening is better than morning, because
of
less chance of harming beneficial insects such as bees.
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:16:44 -0500
From: "George & Carolyn Heyne" <gheyne@millcomm.com>
Subject: Re: Heavy rains

Debbie,

I use a zip lock bag and leave it on for 24 hours.

George Heyne
Rochester, MN

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Debbie Runkle" <yorunk13@att.net>
To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: Heavy rains


> Kathie, you mentioned that you use Dixie cups over the flower after
> pollination.  How long do you leave the cup on?
>
> How long before females form on the vine?  I transplanted 5/25/2001 and
> only
> have two females on the main, one of which just 'hatched'.  I have used
> 15-30-15
> twice, the second time was yesterday.  How long will the secondaries grow
> before
> they produce females?
>
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Kathie Morgan <fishrap@att.net>
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Sent: Sun, June 27, 2010 1:12:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Heavy rains
>
> On Jun 27, 2010, at 8:40 AM, Jason Thomas wrote:
>
>> You can tie the female bloom closed with twine or a twisty tie before it
>> opens. Most growers do that so they can control the source of pollen that
>> goes in.
>
> Hi Guys!
>
> Mr Al Eaton told us that he uses Dixie cups to cover his females after
> pollination. We tried it and it's perfect. Just use one hand to gather the
> petals together, then use the other hand to ease the cup down over the
> blossom.
> We use 16-ounce cups.
>
> Kathie in Santa Rosa
>
>
>> That would keep water out to a certain extent too. You could put up
>> a small piece of tarp (like 1sq ft) with some bamboo stakes over the
>> flower,
>> especially after you pollinate. You can cut or tear small holes in the
>> corolla below the stigma or anther in both female and male flowers to
>> help
>> them drain after a rain. I used to do that when I had my plants growing
>> out
>> over the lawn where they would get sprinkled every morning. But only use
>> that method on female flowers if you don't care about stray pollen
>> getting
>> in. How hot is it there? I've found once it gets hot enough (100+)  here
>> flowers wont pollinate even if the flowers are cooled.  However in the
>> 80s
>> and 90s they will pollinate but only if I cool them by putting a small
>> styrofoam cooler upside down over the flower the night before opening
>> with a
>> frozen water bottle inside for cooling. The styrofoam cooler method will
>> also keep the rain out but you only want to use it for a day or two
>> because
>> you don't want to encourage rot.
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Jeff Potter
>> <maple-leaf@kpe.biglobe.ne.jp>wrote:
>>
>>> I live in southern Japan, and have been trying to grow pumpkins, ANY
>>> SIZE
>>> pumpkins, for several years, with no luck. I didn't really put much
>>> effort
>>> into it, just planted and waited, not really knowing what I was doing.
>>> I got the giant pumpkin bug when I received some seeds from the local
>>> champion, a 200 kger.I've done some studying, finally got a copy of Don
>>> Langevin's Giant Pumpkins II, did what I could with the soil in the
>>> spring,
>>> planted both in pots and directly, and have got some amazing, big,
>>> healthy-looking plants. I have a lot of male flowers, and several
>>> females
>>> not
>>> yet bloomed. I am out at 5:00am every morning just in case. In Don's
>>> book,
>>> he
>>> says I will know when the flower is ready to bloom, but I am not so
>>> sure.
>>> My
>>> problem is, we have a major rainy season here in Asia, it has rained
>>> heavily
>>> for 2 straight days, with a forecast for more, until Thursday. My
>>> question
>>> is,
>>> how can I protect my ladies, will the heavy rain have an effect on them
>>> even
>>> if they do not open, and if they do, can I pollinate them in the rain.
>>>
>>> Thanks, first time poster,
>>>
>>> Jeff
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 23:53:06 -0400
From: dbhaskaran@aol.com
Subject: Re: Heavy rains

Debbie,
Yes, you will need to always cover the female and 3 males the night before!
(with glad bags).
I have pollinated during a pouring rain...the key is to insure it stays dry
during pollination and then using glad bags....keeping it dry for at least
24hrs.  Here are somethings I do if it is an important set:
For Rain:
  - Use an umbrella
For Cold Mornings:
  - Wait till the temp gets up a bit >60 degrees...you can tell by the
pollen
on the male or use more males.
  - The goal is to cover all the segments with lots of pollen from head to
toe.
For Hot Mornings:
  - get it early...I've done them at 5:30am if the temp is 70
  - put ice around the bloom and let it melt into the soil will help keep
the
area cooler.
  - Pumpkins won't set in hot weather...I'm guessing >90 degrees...so need
to
keep cooler.

Good luck
David Bhaskaran
Rochester, MN








- -----Original Message-----
From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Sent: Wed, Jul 7, 2010 10:05 pm
Subject: Re: Heavy rains


Another question - does the weather affect your decision to pollinate?  If
it
is
suppose to rain on the morning you are pollinating, does that cause
problems?
o you need to cover both the male and females with cups the night before?
Debbie


________________________________
rom: Kathie Morgan <fishrap@att.net>
o: pumpkins@hort.net
ent: Wed, July 7, 2010 6:37:20 PM
ubject: Re: Heavy rains
I check it after one day. Usually the blossom has closed up by then.
This year for an unknown reason I have to leave them on for two days before
the
lossom closes.
I'll let someone else tackle the rest of your questions.
Kathie

n Jul 7, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Debbie Runkle wrote:
> Kathie, you mentioned that you use Dixie cups over the flower after
 pollination.  How long do you leave the cup on?

 How long before females form on the vine?  I transplanted 5/25/2001 and
only
 have two females on the main, one of which just 'hatched'.  I have used
15-30-15
 twice, the second time was yesterday.  How long will the secondaries grow
before
 they produce females?


 Debbie




 ________________________________
 From: Kathie Morgan <fishrap@att.net>
 To: pumpkins@hort.net
 Sent: Sun, June 27, 2010 1:12:22 PM
 Subject: Re: Heavy rains

 On Jun 27, 2010, at 8:40 AM, Jason Thomas wrote:

> You can tie the female bloom closed with twine or a twisty tie before it
> opens. Most growers do that so they can control the source of pollen that
> goes in.

 Hi Guys!

 Mr Al Eaton told us that he uses Dixie cups to cover his females after
 pollination. We tried it and it's perfect. Just use one hand to gather the
 petals together, then use the other hand to ease the cup down over the
lossom.
 We use 16-ounce cups.

 Kathie in Santa Rosa


> That would keep water out to a certain extent too. You could put up
> a small piece of tarp (like 1sq ft) with some bamboo stakes over the
flower,
> especially after you pollinate. You can cut or tear small holes in the
> corolla below the stigma or anther in both female and male flowers to help
> them drain after a rain. I used to do that when I had my plants growing
out
> over the lawn where they would get sprinkled every morning. But only use
> that method on female flowers if you don't care about stray pollen getting
> in. How hot is it there? I've found once it gets hot enough (100+)  here
> flowers wont pollinate even if the flowers are cooled.  However in the 80s
> and 90s they will pollinate but only if I cool them by putting a small
> styrofoam cooler upside down over the flower the night before opening with
a
> frozen water bottle inside for cooling. The styrofoam cooler method will
> also keep the rain out but you only want to use it for a day or two
because
> you don't want to encourage rot.
>
> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Jeff Potter
> <maple-leaf@kpe.biglobe.ne.jp>wrote:
>
>> I live in southern Japan, and have been trying to grow pumpkins, ANY SIZE
>> pumpkins, for several years, with no luck. I didn't really put much
effort
>> into it, just planted and waited, not really knowing what I was doing.
>> I got the giant pumpkin bug when I received some seeds from the local
>> champion, a 200 kger.I've done some studying, finally got a copy of Don
>> Langevin's Giant Pumpkins II, did what I could with the soil in the
spring,
>> planted both in pots and directly, and have got some amazing, big,
>> healthy-looking plants. I have a lot of male flowers, and several females
>> not
>> yet bloomed. I am out at 5:00am every morning just in case. In Don's
book,
>> he
>> says I will know when the flower is ready to bloom, but I am not so sure.
>> My
>> problem is, we have a major rainy season here in Asia, it has rained
>> heavily
>> for 2 straight days, with a forecast for more, until Thursday. My
question
>> is,
>> how can I protect my ladies, will the heavy rain have an effect on them
>> even
>> if they do not open, and if they do, can I pollinate them in the rain.
>>
>> Thanks, first time poster,
>>
>> Jeff
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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:35:53 -0700
From: Jason Thomas <j.endlesstrail@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Powdery Mildew

I wonder if my misting of plants is causing mildew problem. Right now I have
very fine spray misters come on regularly between 10:30am and 4:30pm every
day. I thought I'd be safe with 100+ temps evaporating the water quickly but
apparently not. Now I've got mildew.

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Ron Fine <RonFineEsq@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Dear list,
>
> Are there any systemic products to prevent or control  powdery mildew?  I
> live
> close to the ocean in Los Angeles, CA and we get a lot of moisture during
> the
> nights.  And, we have had an unusual spring and summer of cloudy, damp
> weather.   I have several pumpkins growing but my plants are being wiped
> out
> by powdery mildew.  I have tried to use several types of sprays but I
can't
> keep up with the spread and it is very difficult to get to the bottom of
> the
> leaves.  I'm afraid that this year my pumpkins will not make it.   Any
> suggestions??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron Fine
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