Re: WI growers...storm damage?
Perhaps I should clarify... if you get your
seed from another grower, most likely someone
on this list or someone you meet at a weighoff,
it should probably be termed in the "weight NAME Year"
format. If the seeds come from a seed company, then
you won't have this.
AG does stand for Atlantic Giant, and the 800 might
mean that the seeds were culled from an 800 pound
pumpkin, but you can't be sure of that.
Part of the reason for being specific about the
actual pumpkin (the grower, the weight, and the year)
is to document and hopefully study the genetic background
of that particular seed. In the case of the seed
company seed, we probably do not know who "its" parents
were...
You had a question about variety. The Atlantic Giant is
the largest variety, by far. Some others, such as Big
Max and Prizewinner are noted for their size, but they
do not approach the AG (IMHO). If you want to shoot for
state and world records, go with the AG.
I would recommend purchasing or finding in your library
the books "How to Grow World Class Giant Pumpkins, vol.
1 and 2" by Don Langevin. These are excellent books that
can help get you started.
Regards, Cliff in Idaho, where we go from record lows
to record highs, to record lows...
>From: "Sandra Rodoni" <SandraRodoni@msn.com>
>Reply-To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
>Subject: Re: WI growers...storm damage?
>Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:20:17 -0700
>
>Duh! The type is Atlantic Giant! From the P&P Seed Co. I thought they
>were the only ones that really got that large. Is there another type out
>there that gets as big?
>Sandi
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Jon Ewing
>Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 2:14 PM
>To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>Subject: Re: WI growers...storm damage?
>
>It sounds like Atlantic Giant 800 which would mean
>they came from an 800 lb pumpkin but the grower is
>unknown. I don't know for sure because I am new too
>so maybe someone else can tell you.
>--- Sandra Rodoni <SandraRodoni@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > How do I find out what my seeds are? I still have
> > the package and handwritten on it is AG 800. Does
> > that mean something?
> >
> > Sandi
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Cliff Warren
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 12:54 PM
> > To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> > Subject: Re: WI growers...storm damage?
> >
> >
> > Maybe I can handle this one... ;-)
> >
> > You'll often see seeds (or perhaps plants grown from
> > that
> > seed) referred to as a number and a name, and
> > perhaps a
> > year. The number cooresponds to the weight of the
> > pumpkin
> > that the seed came from, and the name is the name of
> > the
> > grower. Sometimes a year is also quoted after the
> > name of
> > the grower.
> >
> > So, an 876.5 Lloyd would be a seed (or perhaps a
> > plant
> > grown from that seed) that came from an 876.5 pound
> > pumpkin
> > that "Lloyd" grew. (Lloyd being a surname.) If it
> > was
> > "876.5 Lloyd 00", that would further designate that
> > the
> > pumpkin was grown in the year 2000.
> >
> > Good luck with this hobby,
> >
> > Cliff in Idaho
> >
> >
> > >From: "Sandra Rodoni" <SandraRodoni@msn.com>
> > >Reply-To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> > >To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
> > >Subject: Re: WI growers...storm damage?
> > >Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:44:02 -0700
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi All,
> > >Sorry for yet more ignorance, but what are the
> > 876.5 Lloyd, 788, Wentzell,
> > >etc.? Are these types of Pumpkins?
> > >
> > >I'm also sorry to hear about your damage. I hope
> > that the rest of the
> > >season is better for you. My seeds haven't even
> > sprouted and I would be
> > >devastated if something happened to them.
> > >
> > >Sandi
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Casey N.
> > >Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 9:35 AM
> > >To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> > >Subject: WI growers...storm damage?
> > >
> > >Hi list....
> > >
> > >Whats the damage report from all the Wisconsin
> > growers??? HOly cow, the
> > >storms came through like a freight train here.
> > There are leaves and side
> > >vines snapped off everywhere on the plants in the
> > main patch, the 825 shy,
> > >876.5 lloyd, and 788 Wentzell. The 825 shymanski
> > got it the worse. Most of
> > >the tall leaves were snapped and some of the side
> > vines that did not fall
> > >over yet were snapped too. The 788 Wentzell's tall
> > leaves were broken off
> > >too, they were some nice leaves. The 876.5 Seemed
> > to get through with the
> > >least amount of damage. There are holes in the
> > leaves from hail on every
> > >plant, but there is no visible damage to the main
> > vine on any plant, which
> > >is good.
> > >
> > >The new patch seems to be ok too. The 616 corkum
> > and 655 Johnson got
> > >through
> > >the storms with just some holes in the
> > leaves.....same with the 772
> > >creuziger. I thought the 616 would have been worst
> > hit, seems most
> > >vulnerable, but it was the least affected. The 535
> > Lloyd had a accident
> > >though. When i took off the cold frames, i just
> > lifted them up and set them
> > >to the side of the plants, well the one next to the
> > 535 (was about 3-4 feet
> > >away) was blown back on top of the 535 and forced
> > the main vine, that was
> > >just about to vine, to fall to the ground.
> > Amazingly i could not find any
> > >kinks or tears in the main vine and seems to be ok.
> > The 535's biggest leaf
> > >was snapped off also, and some holes in the leaves.
> > My 762 plant had a leaf
> > >snapped right off and the main vine was uprooted(it
> > had some taproots in
> > >the
> > >ground already), but it seems fine. Other than
> > that, i think the main patch
> > >the holds the trifecta (825, 876.5, and 788) was
> > underwater for a short
> > >period of time....plenty of water! The new patch is
> > showing it's not to
> > >well
> > >soaking water in ability and there is a huge puddle
> > in the NW corner of the
> > >patch. no pumpkins are there, the 616 is in the NE
> > corner.
> > >
> > >that was some crazy weather. We have a pine tree
> > that was uprooted and fell
> > >onto our satallite dish, so now we don't have cable
> > at the moment. We were
> > >actually under a tornado warning last night, but
> > the heavier damage was
> > >done
> > >to just to our north west, about 10-12 miles or so
> > away...THank GOODnesS!!
> > >There are trees down and telephone poles snapped in
> > half in that area
> > >(Plover, WI).
> > >
> > >Casey Neuville
> > >Amherst Jct., WI
> > >personal best-"Iris"~762lbs in 2000
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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