RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #28
- Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #28
- From: &* O* <u*@charter.net>
- Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:25:39 -0400
We just had frost here in Michigan last night. That's the second year in a
row with frost into June. The only good news is that I too am about a month
behind in starting my pumpkins. I have actually been trying to get seeds
started for about 3 weeks now with no luck. This is shaping up to be a
rough year.
Darren
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Richard Briggs
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 4:05 AM
To: pumpkin
Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #28
All 10 plants are doing well. All have vines four to six feet long with 8-12
good sized leaves and more budding. Can you guys think of anything I should
do
to the vine length?? Or should I wait till there's a bloom or two??
Rich Briggs in St. Louis
> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 03:01:07 -0400
> From: pumpkins-owner@hort.net
> To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
> Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #28
>
>
> pumpkins DIGEST Thursday, June 4 2009 Volume 01 : Number
028
>
>
>
> In this issue:
>
> Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19
> RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19 (UNCLASSIFIED)
> RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19
> Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19 (UNCLASSIFIED)
> Do y'all think this tip will work for our Pumpkins too?
> Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19 (UNCLASSIFIED)
> Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19 (UNCLASSIFIED)
> Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19 (UNCLASSIFIED)
> Re: Do y'all think this tip will work for our Pumpkins too?
> RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19 (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
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>
> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 05:22:18 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19
>
> As usual, I am about one month behind with starting the pumpkins. I have
some
> milk jugs that I sterilized with bleach. Now I am thinking that I cut
them
> too shallow. I cut them below the handle and now they are only about 4
inches
> high. Should I have cut them through the middle of the handle?
>
> It seems like
> quite a few growers prefer to start their seeds on wet paper towels. Is
there
> an advantage using this method verses direct sow in starter soil? Can I
pop
> out of the soil faster by keeping the room @ 85 drgrees? If so, does that
> weaken them?
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Richard Briggs
> <briggsrichard@hotmail.com>
> To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28,
> 2009 10:13:49 AM
> Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19
>
> We got some rain here in
> St. Louis right after I planted. Whew! Just in time.
> Nothing like Diana got in
> Gladstone though.
> It's just a bit cool at 55 degrees this morning but is
> supposed to be 80 by
> Friday.
>
> I had germinated mine in rolled paper Cups, kept
> warm over a heating pad. It
> worked great and all 10 seeds have germinated.
>
> I
> hope I didn't transplant too early because as soon as the cotyledons came
> up,
> I stuck them outside. I tore parts of my paper pots apart for easier root
> penetration even though a few had already started sending roots through
the
> bottom of the folded pots. They've gotten noticeably bigger but only 3 or
4
> have regular leaves sprouting too. It got cool after the few days of rain
we
> had. I think the Kansas rain petered out somewhat by the time it made it's
way
> here so we in St. Louis had only nice mild rain for 2 days.
>
> Now it just needs
> to warm up so we can COOK some Chlorophyll in the sun!
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> PUMPKINS
> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:43:09 -0400
> From: "Tooley, Leigh CIV USA AMC" <leigh.tooley@us.army.mil>
> Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19 (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> Caveats: NONE
>
> I did not have good germination with the wet paper towel method. I
> guess the top of the fridge was not warm enough. Before I got my
> seedling heat mats, I used a method with great success suggested by a
> member on this list.
>
> Put your potted seeds (very moist soil) in a cooler with a bottle of
> very hot water. Change the water morning and night until the seeds
> sprout. I also filed down the sides of the seeds a little.
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
> Of Debbie Runkle
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:22 AM
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19
>
> As usual, I am about one month behind with starting the pumpkins. I
> have some milk jugs that I sterilized with bleach. Now I am thinking
> that I cut them too shallow. I cut them below the handle and now they
> are only about 4 inches high. Should I have cut them through the middle
> of the handle?
>
> It seems like
> quite a few growers prefer to start their seeds on wet paper towels. Is
> there an advantage using this method verses direct sow in starter soil?
> Can I pop out of the soil faster by keeping the room @ 85 drgrees? If
> so, does that weaken them?
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Richard Briggs
> <briggsrichard@hotmail.com>
> To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28,
> 2009 10:13:49 AM
> Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19
>
> We got some rain here in
> St. Louis right after I planted. Whew! Just in time.
> Nothing like Diana got in
> Gladstone though.
> It's just a bit cool at 55 degrees this morning but is supposed to be 80
> by Friday.
>
> I had germinated mine in rolled paper Cups, kept warm over a heating
> pad. It worked great and all 10 seeds have germinated.
>
> I
> hope I didn't transplant too early because as soon as the cotyledons
> came up, I stuck them outside. I tore parts of my paper pots apart for
> easier root penetration even though a few had already started sending
> roots through the bottom of the folded pots. They've gotten noticeably
> bigger but only 3 or 4 have regular leaves sprouting too. It got cool
> after the few days of rain we had. I think the Kansas rain petered out
> somewhat by the time it made it's way here so we in St. Louis had only
> nice mild rain for 2 days.
>
> Now it just needs
> to warm up so we can COOK some Chlorophyll in the sun!
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> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> Caveats: NONE
> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:38:31 -0400
> From: "Peters, Glenn" <gpeters@ll.mit.edu>
> Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19
>
> At this time I'd forego the pots and just direct seed them in the garden.
>
> Glenn Peters
> Information Services Department
> M.I.T. Lincoln Labs.
> 781-981-0451
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of
> Debbie Runkle
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:22 AM
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19
>
> As usual, I am about one month behind with starting the pumpkins. I have
> some
> milk jugs that I sterilized with bleach. Now I am thinking that I cut
them
> too shallow. I cut them below the handle and now they are only about 4
> inches
> high. Should I have cut them through the middle of the handle?
>
> It seems like
> quite a few growers prefer to start their seeds on wet paper towels. Is
> there
> an advantage using this method verses direct sow in starter soil? Can I
pop
> out of the soil faster by keeping the room @ 85 drgrees? If so, does that
> weaken them?
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Richard Briggs
> <briggsrichard@hotmail.com>
> To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28,
> 2009 10:13:49 AM
> Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19
>
> We got some rain here in
> St. Louis right after I planted. Whew! Just in time.
> Nothing like Diana got in
> Gladstone though.
> It's just a bit cool at 55 degrees this morning but is
> supposed to be 80 by
> Friday.
>
> I had germinated mine in rolled paper Cups, kept
> warm over a heating pad. It
> worked great and all 10 seeds have germinated.
>
> I
> hope I didn't transplant too early because as soon as the cotyledons came
> up,
> I stuck them outside. I tore parts of my paper pots apart for easier root
> penetration even though a few had already started sending roots through
the
> bottom of the folded pots. They've gotten noticeably bigger but only 3 or
4
> have regular leaves sprouting too. It got cool after the few days of rain
we
> had. I think the Kansas rain petered out somewhat by the time it made it's
> way
> here so we in St. Louis had only nice mild rain for 2 days.
>
> Now it just needs
> to warm up so we can COOK some Chlorophyll in the sun!
> - ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Pumpkin-growing archives: http://www.hort.net/lists/pumpkins/
> PUMPKINS
> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 13:27:45 -0700
> From: Dave Squires <djsquires@ultraplix.com>
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19 (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
> Tooley, Leigh CIV USA AMC wrote:
> > Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> > Caveats: NONE
> >
> > I did not have good germination with the wet paper towel method. I
> > guess the top of the fridge was not warm enough. Before I got my
> > seedling heat mats, I used a method with great success suggested by a
> > member on this list.
> >
> >
> Worked for me just fine. I have 4 plants going now. The paper towel
> with the seeds wrapped
> in it must be put in a plastic bag or wrapped in plastic to prevent
> drying out.
> Works every time for me. I just place them on the kitchen counter.
> First you soak them overnight
> before putting them between paper towels and then in the plastic bag.
> These are 4 year old seeds too that I keep in the freezer. I have
> loads of them left.
>
> DRS
> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:54:05 -0500
> From: "Brian Taylor" <brian8t@gmail.com>
> Subject: Do y'all think this tip will work for our Pumpkins too?
>
> Has this one been discussed in the past? Got this tip from the gardening
> newsletter from About.com today.
>
>
>
> Deterring Squash Borers: Sow radish seeds with the squash seeds to prevent
> the squash borers.
>
>
>
> Brian
> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 16:03:49 -0700 (PDT)
> From: steve minor <minok2014@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19 (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
> A variation on this is to flip a germination tray over a heat mat, put the
> bagged, paper-toweled seeds on top of the inverted tray, and put
everything
> inside of a large plastic bag. I cooked a lot of seedlings before I
realized
> temps inside a closed germination tray can get to 105 degrees!!!
>
> - --- On Wed, 6/3/09, Dave Squires <djsquires@ultraplix.com> wrote:
>
> From: Dave Squires <djsquires@ultraplix.com>
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19 (UNCLASSIFIED)
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 4:27 PM
>
> Tooley, Leigh CIV USA AMC wrote:
> > Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> > Caveats: NONE
> >
> > I did not have good germination with the wet paper towel method. I
> > guess the top of the fridge was not warm enough. Before I got my
> > seedling heat mats, I used a method with great success suggested by a
> > member on this list.
> >
> >
> Worked for me just fine. I have 4 plants going now. The paper towel with
the
> seeds wrapped
> in it must be put in a plastic bag or wrapped in plastic to prevent drying
> out.
> Works every time for me. I just place them on the kitchen counter. First
you
> soak them overnight
> before putting them between paper towels and then in the plastic bag.
> These are 4 year old seeds too that I keep in the freezer. I have loads
of
> them left.
>
> DRS
> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 19:02:32 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19 (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
> Do most growers use the paper towel method as opposed to starter mix?
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: steve minor <minok2014@yahoo.com>
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 6:03:49 PM
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19 (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
> A variation on this is to flip a germination tray over a heat mat, put the
> bagged, paper-toweled seeds on top of the inverted tray, and put
everything
> inside of a large plastic bag. I cooked a lot of seedlings before I
realized
> temps inside a closed germination tray can get to 105 degrees!!!
>
> - --- On Wed, 6/3/09, Dave Squires <djsquires@ultraplix.com> wrote:
>
> From: Dave Squires <djsquires@ultraplix.com>
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19 (UNCLASSIFIED)
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 4:27 PM
>
> Tooley, Leigh CIV USA AMC wrote:
> > Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> > Caveats: NONE
> >
> > I did not have good germination with the wet paper towel method. I
> > guess the top of the fridge was not warm enough. Before I got my
> > seedling heat mats, I used a method with great success suggested by a
> > member on this list.
> >
> >
> Worked for me just fine. I have 4 plants going now. The paper towel with
the
> seeds wrapped
> in it must be put in a plastic bag or wrapped in plastic to prevent drying
> out.
> Works every time for me. I just place them on the kitchen counter. First
you
> soak them overnight
> before putting them between paper towels and then in the plastic bag.
> These are 4 year old seeds too that I keep in the freezer. I have loads
of
> them left.
>
> DRS
> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:49:45 -0400
> From: dbhaskaran@aol.com
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19 (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
> I like the paper towel method and have been highly successful with it...I
think I was 100% for about 30 seeds this year from about 12 different seeds.
> Once I see the sprout they go into the starter mix that is also at a nice
85-90 degrees.
>
> Planting AG seeds in the garden is tough as most garden soils (at least in
MN) are not near this temp yet.
>
> Good luck,
> David Bhaskaran
> Rochester, MN
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Sent: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 9:02 pm
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19 (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
>
>
> Do most growers use the paper towel method as opposed to starter mix?
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: steve minor <minok2014@yahoo.com>
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 6:03:49 PM
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19 (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
> A variation on this is to flip a germination tray over a heat mat, put the
> bagged, paper-toweled seeds on top of the inverted tray, and put
everything
> inside of a large plastic bag. I cooked a lot of seedlings before I
realized
> temps inside a closed germination tray can get to 105 degrees!!!
>
> - --- On Wed, 6/3/09, Dave Squires <djsquires@ultraplix.com> wrote:
>
> From: Dave Squires <djsquires@ultraplix.com>
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19 (UNCLASSIFIED)
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 4:27 PM
>
> Tooley, Leigh CIV USA AMC wrote:
> > Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> > Caveats: NONE
> >
> > I did not have good germination with the wet paper towel method. I
> > guess the top of the fridge was not warm enough. Before I got my
> > seedling heat mats, I used a method with great success suggested by a
> > member on this list.
> >
> >
> Worked for me just fine. I have 4 plants going now. The paper towel with
the
> seeds wrapped
> in it must be put in a plastic bag or wrapped in plastic to prevent drying
> out.
> Works every time for me. I just place them on the kitchen counter. First
you
> soak them overnight
> before putting them between paper towels and then in the plastic bag.
> These are 4 year old seeds too that I keep in the freezer. I have loads
of
> them left.
>
> DRS
> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:55:55 -0400
> From: dbhaskaran@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Do y'all think this tip will work for our Pumpkins too?
>
> It might, but if you have SVB moths...I would use Triazicide just to be
sure....that has proven to be effective.
> 1 borer in your main vine and you will lose a lot of pounds on that
pumpkin...people growing squash for food...aren't that worried. ;-)
> I actually keep my MV under remay all season...just to protect the "golden
pipeline" and still spray Triazicide!
> Good luck.
> David Bhaskaran
> Rochester, MN.
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Taylor <brian8t@gmail.com>
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Sent: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 3:54 pm
> Subject: Do y'all think this tip will work for our Pumpkins too?
>
>
>
> Has this one been discussed in the past? Got this tip from the gardening
> newsletter from About.com today.
>
>
>
> Deterring Squash Borers: Sow radish seeds with the squash seeds to prevent
> the squash borers.
>
>
>
> Brian
> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:17:05 -0400
> From: Stephen Jepsen <ctpumpkin@optonline.net>
> Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19 (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
> We only use the paper towel method inside a Ziploc bag. I presoak seeds in
a
> 10% hydrogen peroxide solution at 85-90*F for 30-609 minutes. The towel is
> only so damp that even a very hard squeeze fails to drop water. I use a
> laptop keyboard for heat with a dial thermometer to monitor the
temperature.
> 85-90*F yields 100% germination of all viable seeds.
>
> This method has served me well for years.
>
> Stephen Jepsen
> CT GS&PGA Director Emeritus
> GPC Executive Committee
> Tel (914) 260-7176
> Fax (206) 203-2397
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of
> Debbie Runkle
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:03 PM
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19 (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
> Do most growers use the paper towel method as opposed to starter mix?
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: steve minor <minok2014@yahoo.com>
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 6:03:49 PM
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19 (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
> A variation on this is to flip a germination tray over a heat mat, put the
> bagged, paper-toweled seeds on top of the inverted tray, and put
everything
> inside of a large plastic bag. I cooked a lot of seedlings before I
> realized
> temps inside a closed germination tray can get to 105 degrees!!!
>
> - --- On Wed, 6/3/09, Dave Squires <djsquires@ultraplix.com> wrote:
>
> From: Dave Squires <djsquires@ultraplix.com>
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #19 (UNCLASSIFIED)
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 4:27 PM
>
> Tooley, Leigh CIV USA AMC wrote:
> > Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> > Caveats: NONE
> >
> > I did not have good germination with the wet paper towel method. I
> > guess the top of the fridge was not warm enough. Before I got my
> > seedling heat mats, I used a method with great success suggested by a
> > member on this list.
> >
> >
> Worked for me just fine. I have 4 plants going now. The paper towel with
> the
> seeds wrapped
> in it must be put in a plastic bag or wrapped in plastic to prevent drying
> out.
> Works every time for me. I just place them on the kitchen counter. First
> you
> soak them overnight
> before putting them between paper towels and then in the plastic bag.
> These are 4 year old seeds too that I keep in the freezer. I have loads
of
> them left.
>
> DRS
> End of pumpkins DIGEST V1 #28
> *****************************
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