RE: Giant pumkin seeds from USA


Let's keep it pumpkins guys! At least general agriculture topics. Ray made a
mistake now lets move forward. 
Thanks!

Steve Haberman


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From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
LGOURD@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:30 PM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: Giant pumkin seeds from USA

Bart,
 
I believe your posts could be considered to be "mean spirited" also. My
latest did include two apologies and statement of seeds already being sent
to Kenya.  Perhaps they could be shared - since none can be sent now!
 
Ray Waterman
 
In a message dated 6/24/2009 9:47:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
toftness@mindspring.com writes:

Ray,

As usual you don't know when to leave well enough  alone.  My post had
nothing to do with politics.  Here was a  case of someone coming to the list
to seek help in obtaining seeds to grow  giant pumpkins.  Did you have
anything constructive to  offer...no.  Instead you took a tasteless 
shot.   " I just  couldn't help myself "  Perhaps this mean spirited 
attitude explains  why the 'WPC' is where it is today.

As an American I defend your right  to free speech but this has always been
a forum for and about growing  giant pumpkins.  The man who made the
original request for seeds has  nothing to do with our political issues. 
Your reply was and remains  tasteless and your lack of an apology to him
will always reflect on you  poorly.


Bart

LGOURD@aol.com wrote:
> In a message  dated 6/24/2009 7:09:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> toftness@mindspring.com writes:
> 
> nice to  see Ray  Waterman of P & P Seeds (LGOURD@aol.com) make another  
>  tasteless post.   way to go  Ray.
> 
> 
>  Bart
> 
> 
> 
> You know what Bart - many of us  Americans have a right to free speech. 
This 
>  may not be the  place to speak out about the direction our country is 
> headed  but I've put in my time defending it and I'm not in love with 
> the
 sham  
> that's being fostered by many of a different persuasion.    And by the 
way, 
> I've sent many seeds to Kenya and they have been  grown over  there by
friends 
> for many years.  The fact that  Mr. Obama was, by his own  admission a 
> British Citizen by birth  does NOT allow him to be the President of  
> the
United 
> States of  America, according to our republic's constitution. You  can
call it  
> tasteless but many citizens of this great land feel the same  way.  
> I'm
sorry 
> if it was a little too sensitive for the  discussion group, but the
truth is 
> the truth. And, I just  couldn't help myself (which sounds like
something 
> politicians  do all the time!  And, I'm sorry for that  also!).
>   
> Ray Waterman




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