RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #45
- Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #45
- From: &* N* <n*@ccrtc.com>
- Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:30:44 -0400
Well said Ray!
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Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 3:01 AM
To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #45
pumpkins DIGEST Friday, June 26 2009 Volume 01 : Number 045
In this issue:
Re: Giant pumkin seeds from USA
Re: Giant pumkin seeds from USA
Re: Gardening and kids
RE: Giant pumkin seeds from USA
Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #44
blossom removal question
RE: blossom removal question
Re: Gardening and kids
Re: blossom removal question
RE: blossom removal question (UNCLASSIFIED)
RE: blossom removal question (UNCLASSIFIED)
RE: blossom removal question (UNCLASSIFIED)
RE: blossom removal question (UNCLASSIFIED)
Any Webcams Out There Yet?
Re: Any Webcams Out There Yet?
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:05:05 -0500
From: "Russ Stokes" <rstokes@wi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Giant pumkin seeds from USA
Bart,
I am with you on this. This forum is designed to help people in their
pursuit of growing giant pumpkins. Not to expound your political beliefs.
LGOURD did make some posts that had no place here. I am sure there are
other avenues out there where LGOURD can post his comments and he even may
run into some people that share his belief(s). Let's keep pumpkins@hort.net
a forum to help people with their quest for growing giant pumpkins.
Russ Stokes
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:27:10 -0400
From: Bart Toftness <toftness@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Giant pumkin seeds from USA
thanks Russ, I couldn't agree more.
Bart
Russ Stokes wrote:
> Bart,
>
> I am with you on this. This forum is designed to help people in their
> pursuit of growing giant pumpkins. Not to expound your political
> beliefs. LGOURD did make some posts that had no place here. I am sure
> there are other avenues out there where LGOURD can post his comments and
> he even may run into some people that share his belief(s). Let's keep
> pumpkins@hort.net a forum to help people with their quest for growing
> giant pumpkins.
>
> Russ Stokes
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:21:24 -0500
From: "don" <amogardener@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Gardening and kids
I am a master gardener for Missouri and they are right contact the master
gardeners of your area they would love to bite into this type of thing
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Barbara Finch" <barbfinch1275@yahoo.com>
To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: Gardening and kids
> Ben;
>
> I would suggest you look under the county listings in your phone book for
> the
> local extension office and ask for the Master Gardeners. I am sure they
> would
> step to the fore.
>
> Barb Finch
>
> --- On Wed, 6/24/09, ben usen <benusen73@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: ben usen <benusen73@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Gardening and kids
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 9:31 AM
>
>
> Happy day, ALL!
> Hope the gardening season is going well!
>
> I am sending this out as simply a feeler. Please, do not think you are
> committing to anything if you respond!
> I know that farmers and gardeners are the most generous, caring, kind,
> helpful
> sort imaginable... so that is why I am posing the following question:
>
> I am working on a project that would try to incorporate organic gardening,
> and
> healthy eating into the curriculum of an urban school in the Buffalo, NY
> area. It is the very early stages of the project, but I am thinking that
> if
> asked, local farmers and people that are passionate and knowledgeable
> about
> farming and gardening.. like people on this thread... would be willing to
> come
> to the school and talk to the kids. Perhaps even participate in some sort
> of
> Farmer's market.
>
> Is that something that anyone in this area would even consider?
> Let me repeat... I am just doing a survey...I just want to see is I can
> present the idea that local gardening folks would be interested in talk
> gardening to kids.
> I promise... I will not email you if you respond.
> As I said... I just want to get a sense of the area.
> Thanks!
> Ben
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:50:40 -0400
From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
Subject: RE: Giant pumkin seeds from USA
Let's keep it pumpkins guys! At least general agriculture topics. Ray made a
mistake now lets move forward.
Thanks!
Steve Haberman
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
LGOURD@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:30 PM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: Giant pumkin seeds from USA
Bart,
I believe your posts could be considered to be "mean spirited" also. My
latest did include two apologies and statement of seeds already being sent
to Kenya. Perhaps they could be shared - since none can be sent now!
Ray Waterman
In a message dated 6/24/2009 9:47:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
toftness@mindspring.com writes:
Ray,
As usual you don't know when to leave well enough alone. My post had
nothing to do with politics. Here was a case of someone coming to the list
to seek help in obtaining seeds to grow giant pumpkins. Did you have
anything constructive to offer...no. Instead you took a tasteless
shot. " I just couldn't help myself " Perhaps this mean spirited
attitude explains why the 'WPC' is where it is today.
As an American I defend your right to free speech but this has always been
a forum for and about growing giant pumpkins. The man who made the
original request for seeds has nothing to do with our political issues.
Your reply was and remains tasteless and your lack of an apology to him
will always reflect on you poorly.
Bart
LGOURD@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 6/24/2009 7:09:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> toftness@mindspring.com writes:
>
> nice to see Ray Waterman of P & P Seeds (LGOURD@aol.com) make another
> tasteless post. way to go Ray.
>
>
> Bart
>
>
>
> You know what Bart - many of us Americans have a right to free speech.
This
> may not be the place to speak out about the direction our country is
> headed but I've put in my time defending it and I'm not in love with
> the
sham
> that's being fostered by many of a different persuasion. And by the
way,
> I've sent many seeds to Kenya and they have been grown over there by
friends
> for many years. The fact that Mr. Obama was, by his own admission a
> British Citizen by birth does NOT allow him to be the President of
> the
United
> States of America, according to our republic's constitution. You can
call it
> tasteless but many citizens of this great land feel the same way.
> I'm
sorry
> if it was a little too sensitive for the discussion group, but the
truth is
> the truth. And, I just couldn't help myself (which sounds like
something
> politicians do all the time! And, I'm sorry for that also!).
>
> Ray Waterman
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:05:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Diana Sigel <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #44
I, too, thought my first giant-pumpkin season was over. When high winds, 1
1/2" hail, and 4" of rain it us, my vines were horrible. The first female
blossom had appeared just that morning. Now, they all look great. Well,
MOST
of them look great. I can no longer distinguish which parts of the vines
are
the mains, secondaries, or tertiaries, but they are growing like crazy! I
have new male blossoms this morning, but no female blossoms yet. Of the
nine
original plants, one didn't look great from the git-go. One plant is almost
assuredly dead from the drubbing it took, but the other seven look like
they'll thrive and be able to produce pumpkins. The two seeds I planted 10
days ago now have small first and second true leaves. Soooo...even as a
novice, I can definitely say, "Don't give up!"
cheers,
duchess of gladstone
- -
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:36:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Peter knop <peterknop@yahoo.com>
Subject: blossom removal question
I have found no where info on blossom removal as vine grows but before
select
one for pumpkin. I have been removing blossoms as soon as I see the buds -
why have energy going into them when it could go into vine growing?
Obviously
(I think) after one picks one's pumpkin, all blossoms removed thereafter as
soon as bud is seen, yes?
- --- On Thu, 6/25/09, Diana Sigel <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Diana Sigel <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #44
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 9:05 AM
I, too, thought my first giant-pumpkin season was over. When high winds, 1
1/2" hail, and 4" of rain it us, my vines were horrible. The first female
blossom had appeared just that morning. Now, they all look great. Well,
MOST
of them look great. I can no longer distinguish which parts of the vines
are
the mains, secondaries, or tertiaries, but they are growing like crazy! I
have new male blossoms this morning, but no female blossoms yet. Of the
nine
original plants, one didn't look great from the git-go. One plant is almost
assuredly dead from the drubbing it took, but the other seven look like
they'll thrive and be able to produce pumpkins. The two seeds I planted 10
days ago now have small first and second true leaves. Soooo...even as a
novice, I can definitely say, "Don't give up!"
cheers,
duchess of gladstone
- -
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:26:40 -0400
From: Stephen Jepsen <ctpumpkin@optonline.net>
Subject: RE: blossom removal question
"YES". Not only does making flowers take energy, said flowers attract
cucumber beetles.
Stephen Jepsen
CT GS&PGA Director Emeritus
GPC Executive Committee
Tel (914) 260-7176
Fax (206) 203-2397
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Peter knop
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:36 AM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: blossom removal question
I have found no where info on blossom removal as vine grows but before
select
one for pumpkin. I have been removing blossoms as soon as I see the buds -
why have energy going into them when it could go into vine growing?
Obviously
(I think) after one picks one's pumpkin, all blossoms removed thereafter as
soon as bud is seen, yes?
- --- On Thu, 6/25/09, Diana Sigel <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Diana Sigel <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #44
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 9:05 AM
I, too, thought my first giant-pumpkin season was over. When high winds, 1
1/2" hail, and 4" of rain it us, my vines were horrible. The first female
blossom had appeared just that morning. Now, they all look great. Well,
MOST
of them look great. I can no longer distinguish which parts of the vines
are
the mains, secondaries, or tertiaries, but they are growing like crazy! I
have new male blossoms this morning, but no female blossoms yet. Of the
nine
original plants, one didn't look great from the git-go. One plant is almost
assuredly dead from the drubbing it took, but the other seven look like
they'll thrive and be able to produce pumpkins. The two seeds I planted 10
days ago now have small first and second true leaves. Soooo...even as a
novice, I can definitely say, "Don't give up!"
cheers,
duchess of gladstone
- -
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:43:21 -0700
From: "Ron Fine" <RonFineEsq@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Gardening and kids
I'm living in Los Angeles but your email got my attention because I am a
member of a large community garden (www.oceanviewfarms.net) which often
hosts school children for tours and events at the garden. We maintain a
separate demonstration garden just for young children to learn how to plant
and to see different foods and flowers growing. You might want to look for
community gardens in your area. Members are often teachers and others who
work with children and might be very helpful in your project.
Ron
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Barbara Finch" <barbfinch1275@yahoo.com>
To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: Gardening and kids
> Ben;
>
> I would suggest you look under the county listings in your phone book for
> the
> local extension office and ask for the Master Gardeners. I am sure they
> would
> step to the fore.
>
> Barb Finch
>
> --- On Wed, 6/24/09, ben usen <benusen73@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: ben usen <benusen73@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Gardening and kids
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 9:31 AM
>
>
> Happy day, ALL!
> Hope the gardening season is going well!
>
> I am sending this out as simply a feeler. Please, do not think you are
> committing to anything if you respond!
> I know that farmers and gardeners are the most generous, caring, kind,
> helpful
> sort imaginable... so that is why I am posing the following question:
>
> I am working on a project that would try to incorporate organic gardening,
> and
> healthy eating into the curriculum of an urban school in the Buffalo, NY
> area. It is the very early stages of the project, but I am thinking that
> if
> asked, local farmers and people that are passionate and knowledgeable
> about
> farming and gardening.. like people on this thread... would be willing to
> come
> to the school and talk to the kids. Perhaps even participate in some sort
> of
> Farmer's market.
>
> Is that something that anyone in this area would even consider?
> Let me repeat... I am just doing a survey...I just want to see is I can
> present the idea that local gardening folks would be interested in talk
> gardening to kids.
> I promise... I will not email you if you respond.
> As I said... I just want to get a sense of the area.
> Thanks!
> Ben
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:19:48 -0700
From: John Jetty <jcjetty@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: blossom removal question
I remove all of the excess females, but leave the males attached for
fear of excess moisture loss. Maybe I will try taking the males off as
well. I allready have fruit set and could actually use the bees in
other parts of the garden
Jay
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Stephen Jepsen<ctpumpkin@optonline.net>
wrote:
> "YES". Not only does making flowers take energy, said flowers attract
> cucumber beetles.
>
> Stephen Jepsen
> CT GS&PGA Director Emeritus
> GPC Executive Committee
> Tel (914) 260-7176
> Fax (206) 203-2397
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of
> Peter knop
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:36 AM
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Subject: blossom removal question
>
> I have found no where info on blossom removal as vine grows but before
> select
> one for pumpkin. I have been removing blossoms as soon as I see the buds
-
> why have energy going into them when it could go into vine growing?
> Obviously
> (I think) after one picks one's pumpkin, all blossoms removed thereafter
as
> soon as bud is seen, yes?
>
> --- On Thu, 6/25/09, Diana Sigel <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Diana Sigel <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #44
> To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 9:05 AM
>
>
> I, too, thought my first giant-pumpkin season was over. When high winds,
1
> 1/2" hail, and 4" of rain it us, my vines were horrible. The first female
> blossom had appeared just that morning. Now, they all look great. Well,
> MOST
> of them look great. I can no longer distinguish which parts of the vines
> are
> the mains, secondaries, or tertiaries, but they are growing like crazy! I
> have new male blossoms this morning, but no female blossoms yet. Of the
> nine
> original plants, one didn't look great from the git-go. One plant is
almost
> assuredly dead from the drubbing it took, but the other seven look like
> they'll thrive and be able to produce pumpkins. The two seeds I planted
10
> days ago now have small first and second true leaves. Soooo...even as a
> novice, I can definitely say, "Don't give up!"
>
> cheers,
> duchess of gladstone
>
> -
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:45:24 -0400
From: "Tooley, Leigh CIV USA AMC" <leigh.tooley@us.army.mil>
Subject: RE: blossom removal question (UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE
Speaking of cucumber beetles... they are holding conventions on my
plants, and my plants don't even have any blossoms yet! Never had this
many before. Has anybody used any "natural" sprays to control them?
I'm sick of picking them off and not sure I should row cover the whole
plants. (I found a place to sell my pumpkins - an organic produce/meat
store - so I'm keeping it as "natural" as possible, plus, I eat my
pumpkins.)
Leigh in PA
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of Stephen Jepsen
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:27 AM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: RE: blossom removal question
"YES". Not only does making flowers take energy, said flowers attract
cucumber beetles.
Stephen Jepsen
CT GS&PGA Director Emeritus
GPC Executive Committee
Tel (914) 260-7176
Fax (206) 203-2397
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of Peter knop
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:36 AM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: blossom removal question
I have found no where info on blossom removal as vine grows but before
select one for pumpkin. I have been removing blossoms as soon as I see
the buds - why have energy going into them when it could go into vine
growing?
Obviously
(I think) after one picks one's pumpkin, all blossoms removed thereafter
as soon as bud is seen, yes?
- --- On Thu, 6/25/09, Diana Sigel <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Diana Sigel <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #44
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 9:05 AM
I, too, thought my first giant-pumpkin season was over. When high
winds, 1 1/2" hail, and 4" of rain it us, my vines were horrible. The
first female blossom had appeared just that morning. Now, they all look
great. Well, MOST of them look great. I can no longer distinguish
which parts of the vines are the mains, secondaries, or tertiaries, but
they are growing like crazy! I have new male blossoms this morning, but
no female blossoms yet. Of the nine original plants, one didn't look
great from the git-go. One plant is almost assuredly dead from the
drubbing it took, but the other seven look like they'll thrive and be
able to produce pumpkins. The two seeds I planted 10 days ago now have
small first and second true leaves. Soooo...even as a novice, I can
definitely say, "Don't give up!"
cheers,
duchess of gladstone
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Caveats: NONE
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:58:51 -0400
From: "Peters, Glenn" <gpeters@ll.mit.edu>
Subject: RE: blossom removal question (UNCLASSIFIED)
Knock on wood, have not seen neither hide nor hair of a cuke beetles, did
kill
my first borer of the season Saturday.
Glenn Peters
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:28:07 -0400
From: Stephen Jepsen <ctpumpkin@optonline.net>
Subject: RE: blossom removal question (UNCLASSIFIED)
Garlic (or Mosquito) Barrier repels Cuc Betls
Valley Green
Stephen Jepsen
CT Arborist & 3A # 62451
Tel: (914) 260-7176
Fax (206) 203-2397
www.valleygreenUSA.com
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Tooley, Leigh CIV USA AMC
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:45 PM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: RE: blossom removal question (UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE
Speaking of cucumber beetles... they are holding conventions on my
plants, and my plants don't even have any blossoms yet! Never had this
many before. Has anybody used any "natural" sprays to control them?
I'm sick of picking them off and not sure I should row cover the whole
plants. (I found a place to sell my pumpkins - an organic produce/meat
store - so I'm keeping it as "natural" as possible, plus, I eat my
pumpkins.)
Leigh in PA
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of Stephen Jepsen
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:27 AM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: RE: blossom removal question
"YES". Not only does making flowers take energy, said flowers attract
cucumber beetles.
Stephen Jepsen
CT GS&PGA Director Emeritus
GPC Executive Committee
Tel (914) 260-7176
Fax (206) 203-2397
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of Peter knop
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:36 AM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: blossom removal question
I have found no where info on blossom removal as vine grows but before
select one for pumpkin. I have been removing blossoms as soon as I see
the buds - why have energy going into them when it could go into vine
growing?
Obviously
(I think) after one picks one's pumpkin, all blossoms removed thereafter
as soon as bud is seen, yes?
- --- On Thu, 6/25/09, Diana Sigel <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Diana Sigel <duchessofgladstone@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #44
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 9:05 AM
I, too, thought my first giant-pumpkin season was over. When high
winds, 1 1/2" hail, and 4" of rain it us, my vines were horrible. The
first female blossom had appeared just that morning. Now, they all look
great. Well, MOST of them look great. I can no longer distinguish
which parts of the vines are the mains, secondaries, or tertiaries, but
they are growing like crazy! I have new male blossoms this morning, but
no female blossoms yet. Of the nine original plants, one didn't look
great from the git-go. One plant is almost assuredly dead from the
drubbing it took, but the other seven look like they'll thrive and be
able to produce pumpkins. The two seeds I planted 10 days ago now have
small first and second true leaves. Soooo...even as a novice, I can
definitely say, "Don't give up!"
cheers,
duchess of gladstone
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:55:45 -0400
From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
Subject: RE: blossom removal question (UNCLASSIFIED)
Funny you mention that Glenn. I haven't seen one cuke beatle yet either.
Kinda strange for this area (N. Indiana).
Steve Haberman
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Peters, Glenn
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:59 PM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: RE: blossom removal question (UNCLASSIFIED)
Knock on wood, have not seen neither hide nor hair of a cuke beetles, did
kill my first borer of the season Saturday.
Glenn Peters
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:57:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Minor <minok2014@yahoo.com>
Subject: Any Webcams Out There Yet?
I know someone who wants to watch giant pumpkins growing. Can anyone help
me
with a website or websites?
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:11:36 -0400
From: Bart Toftness <toftness@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Any Webcams Out There Yet?
haven't had mine running for a couple years now. need a new camera I think
bart
Steve Minor wrote:
> I know someone who wants to watch giant pumpkins growing. Can anyone help
me
> with a website or websites?
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