I want to thank all who replied that was really quick. Our contest weigh in is Oct.10. It's just about 15 people at my shop having a little fun and nothing over 310 lbs so far but I'm hoping this year we will top that! If anyone cares to help me they can send to: D Warner 2775 Michigan Rd Port Huron Mi. 48060 Hope It doesn't sound like I'm begging..(even though I am) just kidding but thanks to all who responded I will keep you updated on my progress Doug