Re: UOW Seeds ........
Would like to hear about some other UOW seeds that growers think
have potential......suggestions anyone ??
Here are a few...........
1056.5 Dueck 2000 UOW
1025.0 Bobier 2000 UOW
986.0 Hester 2000* UOW
954.0 Pistono 2001* UOW
945.0 Holland 2000 EST
903.0 Holland 1997 UOW
879.0 Rockwell 1998* EST
850.0 Wallace 2000 UOW
845.0 Bobier 2000 UOW
535.0 Wolf 1999* UOW
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Webster" <PumpkinDude@sbcglobal.net>
To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 5:50 PM
Subject: UOW Seeds ........
> Rocky wrote
> > When it comes to UOW, most think that is bad, but remember, the Bobier
> > 723,which is one of, if not the, hottest seeds out there, is a UOW
seed...
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> Would like to hear about some other UOW seeds that growers think
> have potential......suggestions anyone ??
>
> George
> Napa, Ca
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On Behalf
> Of Lyle Rockwell
> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 12:34 PM
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Subject: Re: GOOD SEED--BAD CONDITIONS
>
>
> Good point George,
> When it comes to UOW, most think that is bad, but remember, the Bobier
> 723,which is one of, if not the, hottest seed out there, is a UOW seed,
> and most of the ones I have eyeballed have had some type of immaturity
> on them. This slight immaturity makes some get nervous, but actually,
> most of the 723's out there will germinate just fine.
>
> George Webster wrote:
> >
> > Mark,
> > Last year one of the speakers at the Northwest Growers Seminar was a
> > genetic specialist from the University of Oregon. I asked her if a
> > seed from a 200 pound pumpkin and a 900 pound with the same genetics
> > were capable of producing equally large fruit. She told me that if
> > they were both the same cross, they have they have the same
> > "genetic potential" of producing equally large pumpkins. We did not
> > get in to a dicussion of poor soil, watering and other growing
conditions
> > but my guess is that this does not alter the genetic potential of the
seed.
> > I think that most growers (mysel included) think that BIGGER is
better....
> > so what do we do.....we plant the seed from the 900 pounder and ignore
that
> > 200 pounder's seed.
> > Here's a good example......A couple of weeks ago at the California
Growers
> > Meeting, two of Geneva Emmons 1262's went for $100 each at our auction.
> > That same day there were about a dozen packets of Jose Ceja's
> > 900+ (uow) 01 on the table for growers to select during the raffle. The
> footnote
> > on these packets clearly stated that these seeds had the same cross as
the
> > 2001 World Record. There were 2 seeds in each packet. After 2 or 3
rounds of
> the
> > raffle most of these seed packets were still there. Why weren't they
picked
> > up sooner.......BECAUSE WE THINK THAT BIGGER IS BETTER......and also
because
> > uow seeds are largely ignored. If the genetic specialist is correct,
these
> > seeds have the same "potential" as the 1262.
> > Mark, you also mentioned seed size. The size of the seed is usually a
genteic
> > thing and has no bearing on how big a fruit it will produce. For
example,
> > the 449 Marcellus is a very small seed and it grew the 991 Hunt and
other
> large
> > pumpkins. The famous 567.5 Mombert was also a small seed.
> > Mark, I look forward to meeting you and the other east coast and Canada
> growers
> > at Niagara Falls next week.
> >
> > George Webster
> > Napa, Ca
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On Behalf
> > Of Mark
> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:26 PM
> > To: pumpkins@hort.net
> > Subject: GOOD SEED--BAD CONDITIONS
> >
> > I'd like to get some input on future generations' potential on the above
> > subject. If I had a seed that had good parents, great grandparents &
> > great-grandparents, etc and it was grown in poor soil, improper feeding
&
> > watering, wrong set-out date, poor fruit set or pollination, poor
growing
> > conditions, etc etc and it produced a small fruit short-lived by frost
or
> > whatever reason, just how good is the harvested seed, assuming the
pumpkin
> > was old enough to produce mature seed? My question isn't if the seed is
old
> > enough (I already germinated some successfully) but rather what is the
> > potential? did it lose its good "blood" thru the generations or is it
still
> > there? If my 792 Holland and Sherrie LaRue's UOW 1016 produced a 300 lb
> > pumpkin, would there be an interest in the seeds? And for those who
would
> > want them, would you still want them if the seeds were small? If someone
> > grew these seeds PROPERLY, what might the results be?
> > I'd like to get some opinions on this. I'll be at the Niagara Falls
seminar
> > if somebody wants to see the seeds, page me by BowTie or
GoodSeed-BadSeed. I
> > don't think I'll know anyone there, maybe 1 or 2 at most.
> >
> > Mark
> >
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