Re: 300 pound stock



>I would repeat on this subject.
>Look to the grandparents for the size of the fruit you want. I think I
>understand that the genetics for the plant are not passed directly into the
>next generation, but rather into the seeds of the next generation. I

Huh?!

>am able
>to be corrected on this, and my pride will not be hurt.
>It would really be interesting to see a list of the generation behind the
>small mothers of big offspring that Peter Paynter posted. Were the
>grandparent big mothers?
>Yet one more question to drive Mike Brock into insomnia!
>John
>

Almost everything about this drives me into insomnia! I actually have spent 
all night a lot of times going over and over hundreds of crosses and trying 
to trace certain genetic patterns, etc. It almost drove me crazy. (Well, 
crazier). Anyway, I don't know if I follow what you are saying. The pollen 
used for pollination of a female flower will make up half of the genetics of 
the seeds in that fruit, but it doesn't affect THAT specific fruit, only the 
seeds in it. The parents have just as much influence as the parents of any 
other living organism. I think what gets confused is that sometimes people 
refer to the parents of a PUMPKIN, as in the fruit itself, instead of the 
parents of the PLANT that produced that pumpkin. "Parents" of a pumpkin 
fruit could mean different things to different people. Some might say the 
pollenator used to pollinate that pumpkin is the "father", while others will 
say the "father" is the plant that pollinated the female from which the seed 
that grew the plant that produced that pumpkin came from. The confusion 
happens because when someone talks about a specific cross, they could be 
talking about the pumpkin itself, the seeds in that pumpkin, or the seeds 
that the pumpkin came from. So I just always refer to the PLANT, and the 
seeds that grew the plant, since technically, it is what we are really 
talking about.
So, someone might get confused and call the pollenator plant used to 
pollinate a specific pumpkin the "father" of that pumpkin, and then refer to 
it as the grandfather of fruit grown from the seeds in that pumpkin. But it 
really is ONLY the father of the seeds in that pumpkin and the plants grown 
from them.
Did I just make this all more confusing?! AUGH! Sorry if I did! It really is 
very simple, but hard to put into writing!


-Steve




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