Re: AG THOUGHTS what else
Richard J. Noffke wrote:
> Bravo Roger!
>
> This really sums the issues up. I hope everyone will read this comment
> over again!
>
> Rick from Wisconsin
>
> ----------
> > From: res <res@colfax.com>
> > To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> > Subject: not twins?
> > Date: Thursday, November 05, 1998 3:47 PM
> >
> > Scott, Every time you cross-pollinate distinctly different varieties the
> > first generation is going to be genetic soup. The seeds from this cross
> > could exhibit every phenotype in the history of both strains. This may
> be
> > why one year someone grows a big pumpkin and then the next they don't. I
> > feel there has been way to much cross-pollination with the pumpkins.
> > Depending on the genetics involved you could have a 1% chance of getting
> > the seeds you want. If a person has lots of room you could grow them out
> > to find what you want. I think that people who are growing for size
> should
> > have self-pollinated seeds that are at least 1 generation down from the
> > cross. This is why I started working with colchine. But it has turned
> out
> > to be a slow process because of my climate. Have fun, Roger
> >
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Roger and Rick,
Sure glad you guys are here and offering thoughts, because I love this stuff.
And it is through the meeting of our thoughts we can come up with something
new,,,,,,,,,first let me tell you that my undertanding of AG genetics is mild
at best , just for the life of me don't understand the variability..(perhaps a
trait)....haven't seen anything like it or just didn't notice on other
vegies........lets start ..... for a while I was thinking that we could
isolate and control with reliability the characteristic of AG.......by
selfing...................my goal was to self some awesome crosses and grow
out the seed and select......all 300 of them pick and choose the best
traits...........this would take years.....but isn't this what is happening
when a grower passes out the seed....so that most of it get tested and the
ones that make it to the weigh offs are noticed......and used back
in........then I was reveiwng the parentages and realized that the "distinctly
different varieties "really isn't there............that there are close
relationships to all the giants and that naturally selection from the grower
has occured ...........throw in a squash or two for vigor and things might get
rolling.......................but can you tell me can you grow AG that isn't
some how related??? to the (birth)foundation past...............and are not
most the large ones just choosing the biggest (Selection) from that
female,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and sure all the environment is a
factor.................. is that not the biggest "variabilty"..CLIMATE AND
NUTRIENTS.....plus these pumpkins are prone to do things under rapid
growth.........like breaking.................so I have given up on selfing and
concentrated on "selection" of good stems ,good blossom ends, great vines,
great weight and matching these seems to be matching related pumpkins with
good traits........all from my area,,,,,,,,So if you take the stance that they
are "all related " then selecting the biggest for the long line of
offspring........is the way to go if the traits are desirable,,,,,guys I
don't know .........but this is what i am thinking...........and am interested
in your thoughts....brock
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