Re: [Patch info, Part 2]
Might I add that the soil analysis information would be considerable more
valuable if we knew the outcome of the pumpkins grown in it. Notes regarding
ending weight, plant vigor, fruit splits, misshapen fruit, etc. etc... would
be helpful to anyone evaluating soil properties.
Greg Schraiber
Machesney Park, IL.
Ken & Charlotte Mitchell wrote:
> Hey List
> Here are my soil results from March 99. Got to do some things, because
> of big differences seen in other soil analysis. Used Turkey manure for
> so long because of its availability. Have been stuck in the mid to upper
> 500 # range. Poultry manure in very high in P, Cu, B ( the last two
> probably not so good) and doesn't have much organics, being we use pine
> shavings for the most part and not much rice hulls. Looks like I'm
> tearing up some new acreage with a new plan.
> 6.5 Ph
> N 14ppm
> P 488 weak bray ppm
> K 666ppm **
> Ca 1844 ppm
> Mg 216
> Organics 4.5
>
> CEC 13.8
>
> % base Sat
> K 12.3
> Mg 12.8
> Ca 66.5
>
> Micro
> B 2.4 ***
> Zinc 41.9
> Cu 15.6 ***
> Fe 52
> Mn 15
> Any other advice to my thoughts
> Ken
> On 10 Nov 99 03:52:52 PST Nic Welty <nicwelty@netscape.net> writes:
> >Larry-
> > Do you have the specific ppm, or lb/acre from your test results?
> >This will be much more helpful in comparing different soils. I
> >think it would be great for many growers to present their soil,
> >and tissue tests for comparing. Here are my tests from the 1999
> >season:
> >
> >soil test on patch last fall (1998):
> >pH 6.4
> >P in ppm 220
> >K in ppm 320
> >Ca in ppm 960
> >Mg in ppm 195
> >cation exchange 8
> >base saturation 57% Ca, 19% Mg, 9.7% K
> >Zn ppm 3.9
> >B ppm .6
> >
> >I added 500 lb. of 0-0-60 later that fall, and 240 lb. of gypsum in
> >the
> >spring on a 12100 sq ft area.
> >
> >Here were my tissue test results (1999):
> >N 4.49 %
> >S .31%
> >P .47%
> >K 2.66 %
> >Mg 1.27%
> >Ca 8.9%
> >Na .03%
> >B 82 ppm
> >Zn 55 ppm
> >Mn 236 ppm
> >Fe 243 ppm
> >Cu 21 ppm
> >Ak 221 ppm
> >
> >Soil test this fall (1999):
> >3.1 % organic matter
> >P 277 ppm
> >K 503 ppm
> >Mg 255 ppm
> >Ca 1350 ppm
> >pH 6.6
> >base saturation: 11.9% K, 19.7% Mg, 62.4 % Ca, 6% H
> >10.8 cation exchange capacity
> >
> >I grew a 720.5 lb. pumpkin in 1999. I hope more people will
> >post such results, and some comparisons can be made between
> >people who have done very well, and not so well.
> >
> >Nic Welty
> >
> >
> >Larry Checkon <telcom@csrlink.net> wrote:
> >In case you missed part 1 go to the Oct. archives.
> >We now have our soil test results which were done at Penn State and
> >IAS Laboratories in Phoenix. Both sides of the patch were tested
> >because
> >of the different soil types and will be refered to as 1131 and 1190.
> >Probably the strangest thing is the pH level which is 7.1 on the 1131
> >side and 6.0 on the 1190 side. K level is medium on the 1131 side but
> >everything else is in the high to very high range including N, P, Ca,
> >Mg, Fe, Zn, Mn, Cu, and S. Boron was the only low level.
> >
> >I talked to Dr. Paul Eberhart at IAS today about the results. He feels
> >that the high to very high nitrogen level probably caused the seeds to
> >mature very slowly and also led to the 1190 splitting. He also
> >recommended adding some lime to the pH 6.0 area but didn't seem too
> >concerned about the level. He also felt that the organic material
> >released an adequate amount of Boron through the season.
> >
> >It would appear that anyone who is overly concerned about pH shouldn't
> >be and although 6.5 to 6.8 is considered the optimum range, if your
> >soil
> >is a little high or low don't sweat it and don't do anything drastic
> >to
> >change it quickly. Nutrient levels may need to be higher for AG's
> >than other crops but care must be taken to not let anything get too
> >excessive.
> >
> >I can tell you that the soil in the patch was in very poor condition
> >when we started it 2 years ago and it was more luck than anything
> >to get it in good enough shape to grow 2 1100+ pumpkins with 2
> >different
> >seeds in the same year. Probably the most important factors were a
> >good
> >water supply, plenty of fresh cow manure and the Ironite which we used
> >to get the nutrient levels up to where they are.
> >
> >The only thing that really went wrong ( other than the Letterman Show)
> >was the lack of mature seed, but maybe this is something that must be
> >sacrificed in order to gain weight. Possibly we will learn more about
> >this in the coming years.
> >
> >Larry
> >
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