Re: Green mottle Bad ?
I am not sure if I am nuts or what. Aren't pumpkins squash? They are
just the orange variety. I say contests for heaviest "pumpkin" should be
open to all squash. Call them giant pumpkin festivals for the press, but
make it official that any squash can enter. Why should we be colorists.
Yea, orange is prettier and I assume most will keep growing them, but hey,
if someone wants a green jack o lantern who cares. Most, when they are
large, are as ugly as hell anyhow. Jezzz, anyone who saw the winning
pumpkin at elk grove knows that the ugliest pumpkin in the world won. I
would have rather seen a squash than that ugly monster that desecrated the
name of pumpkins everywhere. Yea, it was huge, congrats to the grower on a
job well done, it is not his fault is was the ugliest pumpkin ever grown but
dang, cover it up with a tarp so the children don't have nightmares.
Greg
GIant Pumpkin Grower
www.thepumpkinmaster.com
Fresno, California (It is very hot here only when pumpkins are growing, as
soon as they are done temps are perfect for growing!!!)
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From: Lyle Rockwell <rocky.r@cyber-quest.com>
Reply-To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
Subject: Re: Green mottle Bad ?
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 23:58:07 -0500
John,
I used to feel like you did on this subject, until it happened to me..
My
whole Andersen 815 story from 1998 was well documented, and I didnt think I
would
get over the fact that it was green , not orange.. When you only have so
much
space to grow pumpkins in, and then after all that prepping with this list,
buying videos, purchasing both Langevins books, it happened.. I got a squash
from
a pumpkin seed. After some severe counseling from my fellow growers , I
decided I
wasnt gonna go through with the abortion, just because of skin color. It too
needed to be loved, and after spending an entire season with "Dark Horse", I
found a new appreication for the green monsters.... And in fact, I too
learned
that care is exactly the same as those orange ones, and the basic genetic
makeup
is the same, although coloring is diferent.. But didnt we go through this
back in
the mid 1800's with President Lincoln and some other colors? (Now there is a
can
of worms for ya...) My prediction...... The outcome will eventually be the
same..
green and orange , together...... No segregation from fruit color.... The
crossing has already been done with these two colors of fruits years ago in
most
family trees, if you dont think so, go check out Mike Nepreny's site.. Its
all
there.. If beliefs are out there that squash dont belong, then why not take
this
witch hunt to keep greenout of contests one step farther, why not have
people
show up with seed parantage, and if it is found to have squash in its
background,
it can not qualify as "purebred".... Because in the true sense of AG
plants, it
is now a hybrid, not purebred. if it has the squash makeup in its
background..
Is that my two cents, or my 2 bucks worth?
Heilmanjon@aol.com wrote:
> Well, you would go open a can of worms.
> Here are my thoughts.
>
> If it is not orange, it is not a pumpkin. The whole magic of pumpkins has
to
> do with the fall colors, Halloween, and that whole culture. That is where
the
> attraction comes from, from the kid part in the adults, and from the
kids.
>
> If it is green, it is not a pumpkin, or at least, not healthy one. It
could
> be the heaviest hybrid cucubrit, but that is a different contest from one
for
> pumpkins. I am not particularly comfortable with white "pumpkins," giant
or
> casper the ghost variety.
>
> Do we need a spectrometer to measure - color samples, judging decisions
> required for a certain majority? That is the sticky part.
>
> Will we get into rules' committees, various sites with different
standards?
> Civil war, pumpkin patch raids, spray painting the enemies crop - the
> possibilities are many and evil.
> Mike, what have you done!
> John
>
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