Re: Plant propagation and cloning
This seems odd calling a piece of the plant a clone. I thought a clone
was when one took DNA and grew it in another egg which had its DNA removed.
Like with Dolly, DNA was taken from an one sheep and put into an egg that
was electrically stimulated. I don't know how that would be done with a
seed. What you seem to be talking about is extending the life of a plant
that you think is good. And these "fake" clones that you are talking about,
that may come from a side vine and not the main. I don't think that matters
in cloning. They all have the same DNA and it wouldn't make a difference in
the plant. I believe the main vine usually produces better pumpkins because
it is the main vine. That is where the majority of the nutrients are going.
That is why it is the main vine. And if one took clippings off a
secondary vine to make a new plant, the same DNA would be there to direct
the plant to grow new secondarys and a main like it first did.
Greg
GIant Pumpkin Grower
www.thepumpkinmaster.com
Fresno, California (It is very hot here only when pumpkins are growing, as
soon as they are done temps are perfect for growing!!!)
----Original Message Follows----
From: SteveS012@aol.com
Reply-To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
Subject: Re: Plant propagation and cloning
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 15:43:52 EST
In a message dated 11/27/99 8:56:05 AM Eastern Standard Time,
cucurbyte@hotmail.com writes:
> Is anyone doing research in AG plant cloning or propagation at the
moment?
> There was some talk about it on this list a while back. Please respond
> privately.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
I was one of the people that started the stuff about this before....most
poeple were saying the "clones" would have to be "cuttings" from an
exsisting
plant, since it would apparantly be closer to a "clone" than an actual clone
would. I was trying top get some interest in cloning a 567.5 Mombert, since
right now it seems to be the most genetically consistant plant we have.
Growing clones in the same and duifferent climates would reveal vast amounts
of information about what is genetic, and what is cultural. What works, what
doesn't. What REALLY decides what makes a pumpkin "big". Stuff that is only
guessed at now. I talked a lot about this with Harold last year or so, he
said it was possible for him to get a clone of a plant done, but like I
said,
there were a lot of barriers, like the fact that he thought a cutting would
be more of a clone than a clone would. I personally thought that it
wouldn't,
since it would basically still just be a vine off of one plant, and we all
know that different vines of a plant, as well as different flowers, etc.,
all
produce different results, even under the same environmental and cultural
conditions. A true clone should (I would think) put out the SAME flowers at
the SAME places, with the same genetics in each flower, etc., unless of
course, altered by environmental factors. (But sdo we know if environmental
factors play a part in determining which fruit does what, or where the males
are, etc.)? Having true clones would certainly be the biggest gain in
information in the history of pumpkin growing. We would get more info in one
season than we have in the last 15-20 years.
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