Defenders of the {1064 Needham} Faith....
- Subject: Defenders of the {1064 Needham} Faith....
- From: "clarion" c*@earthlink.net
- Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 05:36:50 -0600
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Ok...Results from 2002 are in and seems like everyone
{ who had fruit sets that is...} grew nice sized fruits off of the
1064 Needham, but........
{
Everyone then says... }
"But what.... there was a problem? What.... UOW!!!??? HHHMMM... not worth
planting, probably."
I am here to defend this seed, and if anyone is scared away
from seeing UOW, let me tell you this seed has BIG potential! I realize everyone
I've talked to are as scared of this seed as they are in the 922 Emmons. Those
who have grown it, all I've seen on paper is... disaster. Well, I am one of
those who grew it and lived to tell about it all. This is my
story....
May 2002 The season
begins, I decide to grow a 712 Kuhn, 845 Bobier, and a 1064 Needham, with my
own 711 as a back up plant. Everyone says "good choices."...
June 2002 The 845 races
off and dreams of a 1337 race through my head. The 712 is slowest of all 3
plants, thoughts of pulling it out to keep my 711 weigh heavy. The 1064 is
right in the middle of the pack growth wise. By the end of June, all that
impressed me was it's increasingly large & thick vine, as well as the huge
leaves that were appearing.
July 2002 "THE" main
month goes by, and fruits are set through the month. The 845 throws odd shaped
fruits on the main with no real shoulders. 18 fruits are pollinated. A side vine
fruit is chosen due to growth rates and best shape...with no good main or
secondary vine fruits to choose from. The 712 wins the battle over my 711,
only because IT IS the 712, and the 711 is only my 711... and I had only
one 712, and still had more 711's. The decision to pull my 711, which was second
in vigor only to the 845 Bobier was VERY hard, but the sacrifice was made,
keeping the "runt" of all my plants. 2 fruits were set on the 712, quickly
settling on the main vine fruit over the secondary fruit. The 1064 Needham gives
me fits. First, problems setting fruit in the heat set me back. Then fruit sets
show sssllloooooowwwwwww growth rates, and two fruits finally are set the 18th
and 19th and chosen, one on the main and another on a side vine. This plant gets
dusted in the derby as the 712 Kuhn has major growth spurt and passes 1064 in
vigor and square feet size. Both the 712 and 845 fruits are on a good pace, and
seem obvious to top my personal bests barring problems. The 1064, by months
end, it has 2 small fruits, slow growing and embarrassing compared to
what the 845 and 712 fruits are doing. I give up hope in the plant, and almost
pull it out to give more room for the 845 plant.
August 2002 The month
that makes or breaks a grower provides me with a lot of surprises. The 845
fruit, although the widest, had a stem split [which was
overcome], and then grew a peanut shaped type of fruit { low height on the
blossom end }. The 712 fruit, which I laughed at initially due to it's size when
the female flower opened, went on a crazy growth rate which almost broke the
Colorado record, only missing it by about 100 pounds. The 1064, was still pretty
much my disappointment... until mid to late August. I was so bummed out on the
plant in July that I dead headed EVERYTHING the first week of August. I am
talking SERIOUS prune back, eliminating about 150 square feet of the plant and
all growing tips. When I was finished, 400 square feet of vines and leaves was
all that was left for 2 fruits to rely on. When both fruits began insane growth
rates, I wanted to keep the main vine fruit only since the plant was so heavily
pruned. The pumpkin on the side vine was the faster of the two fruits and had
the better shape, so I procrastinated on culling it, until both were way to big
to cut off {without me having to commit myself}.
September 2002 The last
month of any real growth started and ended also with surprises. The 845 fell
back to third in the pack, the 712 grew well, but slowed up mid September,
slowly eliminating my hopes to break Joe Scherber's 1,009 Colorado state record.
The 1064, despite being chopped, hacked, cut all to hell, and somewhat
ignored kept on going right up until I harvested one {646} so I could sell it.
The remaining fruit kept growing in measurements, especially after culling the
646 { the one on the main }. Towards the end of September, I was unsure which
pumpkin was the heaviest... the 712 or the 1064 both could have been my
heaviest.
October 2002 Weigh off
month. Cut all pumpkins on October 3rd, hoping to get to Anamosa weigh off.
Weighed 1064 fruit on official scales, fruit weighing 831.8. The 712 fruit was
weighed at a truck scale, somewhere between 890 and 910. The 845 was not weighed
on the 3rd. Officially, the 712 grew my biggest [852.4], the
1064 my second biggest [785.5], and the 845 my third [713.6]. There were no
splits other than 845 stem split I mentioned. Once again...THERE WERE NO SPLITS
ON MY 1064, OR ANY OTHER PROBLEMS WHICH WOULD MAKE IT A UOW... maybe a UFO if I gave it some TLC.
Summary: I noticed this plant does not need
lots of room... remember last years 940 Kurilich? I can only speak of my results
and experiences, perhaps others still had problems in small areas growing this
genetic. I'd love to hear how others that grew it did, and what they could
say about characteristics they noticed....good or bad. I did want to personally
take the time out to praise this seed. From what I've experienced, I know this
genetic is defiantly worth growing. Everyone needs to understand though, it
needs to be treated a little differently, like a prehistoric plant,
not your normal AG pumpkin plant {LOL}.Once it has been tamed,
this is one hell of a plant { and a lot of fun to watch grow } !!!
For those wondering, I crossed the 1064 with males from the
712...
Marc Sawtelle
Colorado Springs, CO |
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