Re: Composted manure versus composted leaves and ideal organic levels.

Bryan Duecks organic level was 11 per cent this year. Lots of potting soil
and manure with a crop of fall rye everyyear.

drew
----- Original Message -----
From: ""Martin Rei_"" <GPR-hip@t-online.de>
To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: Composted manure versus composted leaves and ideal organic
levels.


> Marv,
> That's a good question and a very nice topic for discussion. I hope we
will get lots of input here. Responses from some of the "Heavy Hitters" on
this list (e.g. Eaton, Pukos, Papez, Needham, Zunino, Kennedy,.....) would
be greatly appreciated!
> Thanks,
> Martin
>
> <Lubadub@aol.com> schrieb:
> > In a message dated 10/19/2003 4:02:22 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> > pumpkins-owner@hort.net writes:
> > should I go with the lower quality (lower quality is cheaper
> > too).
> > If you are putting composted manure in your garden, I would go with the
best
> > you can find. The more nutrients the better. The question of exactly how
much
> > organic matter should be in your garden is not really clear in my mind.
I see
> > people putting tons of manure in their garden each year and I see others
just
> > planting a cover crop and then tilling it in. They both get respectable
> > pumpkins. Too much organic matter can be a problem as can too little. In
the woods
> > of PA there is 5 to 6% organic matter in the soil. Farther to the south
there
> > is 3% as it breaks down more rapidly in the higher temperatures. The
benifits
> > of manure and compost are well known. The question is, "How much organic
matter
> > is enough?" I rememeber hearing from one grower that he put loads and
loads
> > of manure into his garden. Nothing grew. When he took the temperature of
his
> > garden he realized that he had created a large compost pile as the
temperature
> > was around 110 degrees. I would be interested in hearing what people out
there
> > believe is an upper limit for organic matter and whether it depends on
where
> > it comes from...compost pile using leaves, using cow manure etc.
> >
> > Marv in Altoona
> >
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