Re: Question

Yes Ray: You are right, I have even received them seed from you, you have
been great for the pumpkin sport & I assume the long gourd sport as well. I
guess I was just questioning your assumption that the people involved didn't
know how to measure a long gourd which I'm sure they did. I'm not sure if
they took a picture of gourd with tape, but thank's, now we know what is
required & and surly the people involved will read this & do just that.
Bill

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From: pumpkins@hort.net
Date: 10/07/04 09:22:29
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: Question

In a message dated 10/6/2004 10:35:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
harrow.fur@pei.sympatico.ca writes:
LOL Is that the best answer you can give LOL Then just forget your record,
you lost it, To Grant, you need 115" to regain it.
Not trying to be nasty, just trying to be right as this seems to be sport I
m moving into .  Bill
Bill,

I haven't had the record since 1994 when my brother, Peter grew the 110 5/8
inches.  What I'm saying is that with the stem included it would have
measured
118 inches or better.  What you're talking is similar to weighing a pumpkin
with the pallet or skid included.  I just want to know if it is a verified
measurement of the specimen without the stem included.  A true WR.  So, when
you
say "I'm just trying to be right", you need to try a little harder and
verify it
and not get in the mode of response you have.  Was the STEM included in the
measurement?  I asked a simple question and didn't expect to hear that kind
of
bull coming back at me.  I lost my record in 1994.  But I did have the
record
from 1990  until then.  How do you think this new class for the sport you're
moving into got going?  I established the variety - called "Collins Long
Gourd"
(and I would like it to be identified as such just like "Atlantic Giant" is
referred to for the giant pumpkin) after 3 crosses and 5 selections over 6
years growing the WR of 99 inches in 1990.  I've sent out thousands of free
seeds
as gifts to growers all over the world.  I'd just like a little respect as
originator and former world record holder.  The best way to show a long
gourd is
with a measure tape next to it in a photo.  Show me one.

Ray Waterman

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