Re: Stats


Mike,
You make some good points. I did OK collecting data from most of the 
experienced growers, but ran into problems trying to collect information on 
some of the smaller pumpkins, say in the 300-500 pound range. Some of those 
growers did not know exactly what seed they had used. They could only 
remember that it was a "Stellpflug" or a "LaRue" and were not able to 
identify a specific seed. Additionally, a lot of these people do not have 
Internet access yet and had no idea who I talking about if I mentioned Mike 
or Duncan's name. We even chalked up one flat out refusal from the 2nd place 
winner at Clarence for his seed information, when I was told "it was a secret 
and he wasn't going to share it with anyone." Thank goodness that grower was 
the exception and not rule, as everyone else I talked to were more that 
willing to share their information.

Perhaps if the seed and OTT measurement info was collected at the weigh-off 
site and made part of the registration process, growers might start keeping 
better records of which seeds they were using and more specific pollination 
data. 

Joe Pukos
Leicester, NY

<< Having just found out how hard it was to avoid getting Lots of heat for
 measuring pumpkins, despite getting the OK from the lifting team (I was
 saved more than once by explaining I was getting the numbers for Duncan's &
 Mike Nepereny's pages...Thanks guys for being so well known and respected) I
 would like to propose that:
 
 1)   Every weighoff be Required to measure each pumpkin upon arrival and
 post this information, along with the genetics, on the growers name tag that
 is displayed with each pumpkin.  The benefits to all attending a weighoff
 are obvious.
 
 2) That the above information be Required to be provided to a representative
 of the local chapter organizing the event, and then that person should be
 required to share that data At Least with Duncan and Mike Nepereny.
 
 To get the name of the winners is easy, to get this other info is WAY
 harder. I am no expert, but I can say if I had not brought a tape to Canby
 the measurements I got would not have been obtained. To my great surprise
 even several growers did not know their current OTT.  I also had people
 following me to get the measurements I had so it is clear to me that many
 want the OTT info.  Sadly, I stopped measuring as I felt pressure to do so.
 
 Seems to me there has to be a better way so everyone who wants the info can
 get it easily.  For those very, very, few growers who don't want to share
 this type of info, I would say "if you want prize money and glory you have
 to share info. "
 
 Just IMHO.  Comments appreciated.
 
 Mike Stephenson >>

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