Re: Presumptous
on 9/7/00 7:28 PM, Bob and Alice Attaway at attaboy@mail.atl.bellsouth.net
wrote:
> Jordan:
>
> I respectfully disagree.
>
> If Money is the root of all evil, how do you pay for your electricity,
> gasoline,
> food
> and the other necessities of life?
>
> Time to drop this whole thing about Chris, who among us would like to have our
> comments at age 16 reviewed by others.
>
> Let us get back to Pumpkins.
>
> Bob Attaway
> Flowery Branch, Georgia
> Personal Best 538 lbs.
>
Does anyone out there use Dri-Kil on their pumpkins?
> jordan gregory wrote:
>
>> No, this is not simple supply and demand. Most growers don't want this
>> to become a business. That is why selling seeds is bad. The more this
>> becomes a way to make money, the less of a hobby it will become that anyone
>> can do. Do you want to see this extremely commercialized? Some do, so they
>> can make money, but I think not the hobby is fun and creating a seed market
>> will take away from the fun, not to mention lead to corruption and fake
>> seeds which lead to fake genetic trees and all the years of good record
>> keeping could be lost. Soon, only one who used his seeds alone would know
>> the genetics of the next seeds. If we let this play out.. well, it will
>> turn into a money business, and money is the root of evil.
>>
>>> From: G Tanner <g1tanner@yahoo.com>
>>> Reply-To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>>> To: Pumpkins <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Presumptous
>>> Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 14:54:13 -0700 (PDT)
>>>
>>> MB,
>>> Very good points. As we sit now many growers try to
>>> get a lot of new seeds each year. We all know why
>>> too. Who knows what seed will produce the next big
>>> one. If you get it this year for "free" then you
>>> won't have to trade an arm and a leg for it or pay
>>> $50-$100 for it the next year at an auction. And like
>>> you have said in the past- I would be that there are
>>> lots of great seeds that get passed over and are never
>>> planted. But such is the game. why plant a unproven
>>> seed with great genetics when you can plant a proven
>>> seed with great gentics?
>>> I don't know... maybe we should switch to a "pay to
>>> play" system. Then the people who are really serious
>>> about growing a big one can pay to get the best seeds.
>>>
>>> I mean people are willing to pay then why not charge ?
>>> if you charge to much then people won't buy right ?
>>> it is supply and demand at work right, free enterprize
>>> and all that.
>>> but one of the good things about growing pumpkins is
>>> that a dedicated new grower can grow a monster.
>>> Chris, our fine 16 year old young man, is a good
>>> example. Why should he or the rest of us have to pay
>>> to get a decent seed ? Why shouldn't he get some money
>>> to improve his patch ?
>>> and who would want to get a couple hundred seed
>>> request emails in a couple of days ? well I would -
>>> not because i want to answer them all but because it
>>> meant that i grew something big. but others who are
>>> busy with school/work, family, etc... might not be to
>>> excited to get swamped with requests.
>>> on the other hand... why not just give your seed away.
>>> I mean all the seed I have... someone gave them to me.
>>>
>>> It's all for fun. for the joy of growing. sharing
>>> seeds with the grower down the street or on the other
>>> side of the world. why bring money into it. it's just
>>> fun.
>>> I don't have an answer... just rambling out loud here.
>>> but your right most all of us have more seeds than we
>>> will ever plant- but i don't see a easy solution.
>>> maybe we don't have to come up with a solution - but
>>> just let it play out... how ever it turns out is how
>>> ever it turns out. And just be who and how you want
>>> to be and let others do that same... knowing that
>>> we'll step on each others toes every now and then
>>> along the way. Every one knows I've stepped on a few
>>> toes - more than most ! Diana forgive me for
>>> exploding/imploding at you... I suggest you marry
>>> Greg and live happily ever after - enigamtically
>>> growing pumpkins together of course!
>>>
>>> Gordon Tanner
>>> Maple Valley, WA
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <<><><><><><>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<><><><><><><<<<<<<<
>>> As much as I agree with the spirit of giving and like
>>> to uphold that
>>> standard. I think that it is presumptous to think
>>> that all growers follow
>>> my ethics. I believe that we over step our boundaries
>>> when we dictate what
>>> one should do with their pumpkin and with their
>>> seeds. This seems purely
>>> his or her decision. I can accept his or her request
>>> or reject it upon my
>>> beliefs.
>>>
>>> The game has changed as it has grown so much. Via
>>> the internet Growers
>>> with hot seed are getting 200-700 seed requests. And
>>> at times have heard
>>> how overwhelming it can be. I choose to put a little
>>> gift in my request
>>> for refreshments for all their secretaries and
>>> envelope stuffers.
>>>
>>> Heres a new topic for the ethics commitee. The
>>> generosity of growers has
>>> created another monster seed mongers........or request
>>> abusers......who
>>> send out multiple seed request and collect more seed
>>> than they can ever
>>> plant in 4 lifetimes.
>>>
>>> few more cents to add to the
>>> pot...................MBrock
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>> --- Greg Schraiber <Greg@schraiber.com> wrote:
>>>> Diana,
>>>> Will you marry me?
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>
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