Re: C vs OTT
Al
This is a great topic and no doubt will have everyone on the list reach for
their calculators.
I am once again growing the 871 Richart "97. It comes out at .441 and is
the nicest looking pumpkin I have ever grown. Side to side and stem to
blossem are basically the same measurements. It has tremendous shoulders to
the point where I've had to put small pieces of styrofoam between the vine
and pumpkin to keep the vine from rubbing.
All things being equal, I should be able to put another 50 lbs.+ before
October 7th. It should become a personal best but one can't be sure until
that pumpkin hits the scales at Canby.
I did "self" this pumpkin and will grow its seed next season along with
your 780. I think that would be an awesome cross. Already planning for next
year.
Jake van Kooten
Port Alberni, B.C.
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> From: The Eatons <eatrich@magma.ca>
> To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> Subject: C vs OTT
> Date: September 13, 2000 4:11 PM
>
> Will N.--your query has really triggered my interest since for years I
have
> used the 3 measurements that go into the OTT and looked at the
circumference
> vs the total.
>
> This "C" divided by the "OTT" gave me a figure that was a blunder check
on
> my OTT measurements which I take every 4 days,exactly(plus or minus 1
> hour,honestly,I like accuracy)
>
> During Aug and Sept this ratio increases,ie. "C" divided by "OTT" has a
> steadily increasing trend.
>
> This has led to what,IMHO,is an ideal value for this ratio. (Note I have
> learned IMHO,old dogs do learn (simple) new tricks).
>
> For example,at present I have an AG with a ratio of .427 (3 significent
> figures are needed),which I consider to be a fruit higher and shorter
than
> my view of ideal,but yet will likely weigh well over the Stellpflug 1999
> chart.
>
> What is ideal??
>
> I have one at .443,which in my view has an ideal shape.
>
> Perhaps this concept will interest others and I would love to see what
other
> growers,who may have a great AG at present,get by dividing the OTT total
by
> the C--Al E.
>
> P.S.-I expect that my vision of the best shape will be different than
that
> of other growers,that is normal.We basically choose our seed and have to
> take the shape we get.As evolution of the top (heaviest AG's) continues
the
> "ideal shape will tend to evolve by Darwinism.Very exciting past and a
great
> future here for all AG fanatics.I like to have an "ideal" so I can grow
> towards that objective with seed selection.
>
> The ideal ratio and the ideal color,incidentally,would be the average of
the
> top 5 AG's at our local weigh-off,since maybe these things are related to
> local climate.Yet there is so much AG genetic variability(to our benefit
and
> to our peril)that I wonder sometimes if a climatic factor is real or
could
> be proven.Still many AG questions remaining.
>
> *************************
> Just kidding.
>
> On a more serious note, can anyone suggest the influence of the
> circumference
> measurement on the the total pumpkin measurement with regard to predicted
> weight?
>
> For example, if 2 pumpkins have the same total measurment, but one has a
> larger circumference but smaller over-the-top measurements than the
other,
> will one tend to weigh more the the other?
>
> Will
>
>
>
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