Re: Phytophthera
George,
No photos of the disease or spores or what it is.
What it does to tomatoes I can describe: the leaves and stems turn brown and
die. On our cherry tomato plant, the tomatoes went right on producing, from
blossom to green to yellow to ripe tasty red.
What it does to grapes, I have photographed bulldozers in the vineyards
removing everything.
What it does to pumpkin plants? That's why I ask the list, since I don't
know.
Kathie
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>From: gbpumpkin@aol.com
>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>Subject: Re: Phytophthera
>Date: Thu, Sep 1, 2005, 8:04 AM
>
> Do you have any photos?
>
> George
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kathie morgan <fishrap@earthlink.net>
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Sent: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 08:11:45 -0800
> Subject: Re: Phytophthera
>
>
> Hi, David!
> It's phytophthora infestans, and they say it's what caused the potato famine
> in Ireland. I've seen entire vineyards lost to it here in CA.
> Kathie
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>>From: "DAVID ASMAN" <kingdavid1.uk@btopenworld.com>
>>To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
>>Subject: Re: Phytophthera
>>Date: Thu, Sep 1, 2005, 1:05 AM
>>
>
>> HI Cathy,
>> Are you sure it is not PHYLLOXERA that you are refering.
>>
>> David Asman
>> England
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "kathie morgan" <fishrap@earthlink.net>
>> To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 5:12 AM
>> Subject: Phytophthera
>>
>>
>>> Hi Guys!
>>> Have any of you had any experience with phytophthera? I used to know it as
>> a
>>> grape disease, but this summer I and my neighbors all over the county are
>>> finding it to be the scourge of tomatoes too. Can it, will it, affect AG
>>> pumpkins?
>>> Also, how edible/usable are field pumpkins for human beings like me? Can I
>>> put it in a pie? Can I eat it by and by?
>>> Thanks!
>>> Kathie
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>>> >From: Dave Squires <djsquires@ultraplix.com>
>>> >To: pumpkins@hort.net
>>> >Subject: Re: Fear and Loathing In the Secret Patch
>>> >Date: Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 9:09 AM
>>> >
>>>
>>> > How about whitetail deer getting through an electric fence and munching
>>> > about
>>> > a fourth of one at the 50lb point. There's a big hole in it where you
>>> > can see the seeds
>>> > and seed beds inside. I leave it there anyway and it just keeps growing
>>> > and must
>>> > be at about the 100lb point with the hole looking smaller as the days go
>> by.
>>> > It just won't die. Weirdest thing I have seen so far. It even rained
>>> > and got standing
>>> > water inside and it still keeps growing. No sign of stopping yet. Even
>>> > mice pay a visit
>>> > leaving their telltale droppings all over it.
>>> > Well, at least I should get some seeds for next year out of it.
>>> >
>>> > ---DRS
>>> >
>>> > vince wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>I've often wondered what motivates the continual malevolent
>>> >>antics of the pumpkin gods. What drives them to bestow such
>>> >>unspeakable horrors on gentle nurturing pumpkin growers? Their
>>> >>treacherous creativity this year is unsurpassed and the
>>> >>resulting misery index of pumpkin growers seems at an all-time
>>> >>high....
>>> >>
>>> >>I've read with dismay the tormented stories on this list and on
>>> >>bigpumkins.com where growers casually reveal their personal
>>> >>pumpkin tragedies - doing their best to hide their angst... but
>>> >>in the background you can hear the laughter of the pumpkin gods
>>> >>and you know that they're just gonna dig it in....
>>> >>
>>> >>There's a first time grower somewhere near you - who just threw
>>> >>a seed in the ground... and will show up at the weigh-off with
>>> >>a perfectly sound 1,200 pounder... They are such shits!
>>> >>
>>> >>So - thanks to the criminal insensitivity of the pumpkin
>>> >>gods... (and my own stupidity) my season has quietly slipped
>>> >>down the toilet... (can you sense the angst?) and so it goes...
>>> >>so it goes...
>>> >>
>>> >>I was going to reveal the whole horrible story... the stump
>>> >>that frothed at the mouth like a rabid dog, the squirming
>>> >>hordes of critters, the plagues of black aphids, the waves of
>>> >>rats. It is a truly horrific story that bleeds gallons of
>>> >>vile, rotting pumpkin juice. But - I will not give those
>>> >>bastards the pleasure.....
>>> >>
>>> >>My last lingering hope, slowly and painfully assumed a
>>> >>grotesque twisted shape so hideous - the plant mercifully
>>> >>aborted it at about 200 pounds.
>>> >>
>>> >>There are still some surprises in the secret patch, some oddly
>>> >>geometric, some strangely deformed, some showing glowing hints
>>> >>of a glorious orange.
>>> >>
>>> >>I just cringe at the thought of what the pumpkin gods have in
>>> >>store for them....
>>> >>
>>> >>vince
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
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