Re: Rot Inside AGs


My horse manure/sawdust mixture is BLACK and crawling with red worms.  I mix
it up with maple leaves and use a composting accelerator sprayed with a
high-nitrogen grass fertilizer in the fall.  In the spring, before I use it
for plants, I drown the mixture in fish emulsion and turn it to mix it up at
least 2 weeks before I plant my AGs in Miracle-Gro potting soil in the middle
of the compost mix.  I then plant my seedlings and try not to water or
fertilize too much for the first 7-10 days, then start using a high P
fertilizer for root growth once a week at one-half strength plus diluted
foliar feedings.  Hopefully this will do until the second month or so when I
start feeding diluted fish emulsion for plant growth.  I also use mycorrhizae
wantonly from day 1.  Hopefully, during all this, my plants get enough N to
grow.  If anyone has any suggestions to add to this, please let me know, as
this is only my second year.  Steve M.

--- On Wed, 9/2/09, mltovar <mltovar@wooden-clockworks.com> wrote:

From: mltovar <mltovar@wooden-clockworks.com>
Subject: Re: Rot Inside AGs
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 2:54 PM

Steve, wood chips, sawdust, and ground up pallets will suck  the
nitrogen out of your soil.  Just google "nitrogen and wood chips" and
there's a lot of info out there.
cheers
Marc
layton, ut

Steve Minor wrote:

>Thanks again, Steve.  I'm hoping my composted horse manure/sawdust source
>isn't infected.  I'm going to protect the main vines from excessive moisture
>next year along with the other steps I mentioned before and aim for a
>weigh-off 2010.  With all the rain we had in VT this year, a 50 lb mound of
>sand under my AGs just wasn't enough.  I still think a field-sized
greenhouse
>is the way to go.  LOL.  Steve M.
>
>--- On Wed, 9/2/09, Stephen Jepsen <ctpumpkin@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>From: Stephen Jepsen <ctpumpkin@optonline.net>
>Subject: RE: Rot Inside AGs
>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 12:02 PM
>
>You could be growing on sand & pulp mill fabric now. We do & the fruit rot
>diseases are no longer an issue here.
>
>Stephen Jepsen
>CT GS&PGA Director Emeritus
>GPC Executive Committee
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
>Steve Minor
>Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 8:17 AM
>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>Subject: RE: Rot Inside AGs
>
>Thanks, Steve.  I'm moving my patch for a few years and plan to limit
>watering
>to soaker hoses and no contact between fruit and soil at all.  We've had a
>lot
>of rain and cloudy days for the past 2 seasons in Vermont, and that only
>multiplied the problem.  Maybe I should build large hoop houses as well. :-)
>
>Steve M.
>--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Stephen Jepsen <ctpumpkin@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>From: Stephen Jepsen <ctpumpkin@optonline.net>
>Subject: RE: Rot Inside AGs
>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 9:46 PM
>
>Sorry for your loss.
>
>Often times we'll conclude there was an unseen breach, but inn this case
>more likely a vascular fungal pathogen found its way into the mix.
>
>Stephen Jepsen
>CT GS&PGA Director Emeritus
>GPC Executive Committee
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
>Steve Minor
>Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:05 PM
>To: pumpkins@hort.net
>Subject: Rot Inside AGs
>
>How does rot start inside an AG?  My last three giants all succumbed to rot
>and were smelly and hot inside when opened, inspite of all the care I gave
>them  Steve M.
>
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