RE:Kids 'n pumkins


The prime reason I have gotten mixed up in the pumpkin lark is that when
my children were 5 and 6 they entered a pumpkin comp organised by the
local Council. Douglas was the smallest competitor and grew the biggest
pumpkin. It was bigger than he was. He came first, older son Tim came
second and Douglas entered his plan 'B' which came third.

They got such a buzz that I said "if ever I was in the position to do
this then I would" - here I am. 

They really did grow them albeit under my guidance - the point is that
cheats really never do prosper and we will always get the yobo's
cheating. At least they are there at the comp' and not in front of a
play station. Our 'profit' from this is kids getting a life skill and a
family working on a project together. 

Doesn't help your problem Tony but is my 10 cents worth anyway.

www.hawera.net.nz <http://www.hawera.net.nz>  
Have a 'Parky' day.
John S.



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	pumpkins DIGEST      Wednesday, September 9 1998      Volume 01
: Number 391



	In this issue:

	        My grandpa needs seeds
	        Re: Solution to a pumpkin contest with kids and adults
	        Re: childrens divisions
	        FW: Solution to a pumpkin contest with kids and adults
	        Blossom End Up Estimating Help Needed
	        Joseph Derting
	        Re: FW: Solution to a pumpkin contest with kids and
adults
	        Re: FW: Solution to a pumpkin contest with kids and
adults
	        Re: FW: Solution to a pumpkin contest with kids and
adults
	        Re: daily growth
	        Re: FW: Solution to a pumpkin contest with kids and
adults
	        Re: daily growth
	        RE: Solution to a pumpkin contest with kids and adults
	        Scar seeds
	        Re: Scar seeds

	
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	Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 20:01:08 EDT
	From: FuNGii1@aol.com
	Subject: My grandpa needs seeds

	hello to all pumkineers.

	II recently went to my grandpa's house and told him all of the
stuff about my
	pumkins at home and the all the different techniques , and trics
to grow a
	giant. he is so exicited that he asked me to ask the people on
the list(you
	guys and gals) if any of you guys have any seeds you can spare
to my grandpa
	he would be very happy and please. he would like to thank you
all i advanced
	for reading this too and hopes to here from you,

	ps  he said if there are any costs he would pay them if
nessasary

	his adress is thanx so much

	Nazar Shaverdian
	4022 93rd ave SE
	Mercer Island WA
	98040
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	Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 20:52:33 EDT
	From: Pumkinguy@aol.com
	Subject: Re: Solution to a pumpkin contest with kids and adults

	PF,
	   It may be that the Marshfield people just don't want to have
a kids contest
	or be bothered with it. You will always get a few jerky parents
that grow the
	pumpkin and say their kids did it. There is not too much you can
do about
	dishonest parents. It may be , that this is not for Marshfield.
At the Big E
	childrens contest, they interview the children to ask them how
they grew
	it....to discourage the cheating parents. We haven't had much of
a problem at
	New Milford. The 50th place prize at Topsfield is just a
proposal for next
	year....but I think it will fly. 
	
Wayne
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	Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 21:09:35 EDT
	From: Pumkinguy@aol.com
	Subject: Re: childrens divisions

	VB,
	   Good call on the childrens pumpkin contest. I was at the big
E contest last
	year and a father brought in multiple entries. One of his kids
came up to him
	and said, "Dad which pumpkin is mine"?
	                                              Wayne
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	Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 10:35:00 +0930
	From: "Hickman, Tony [SAHC_RGH]" <shickam@saugov.sa.gov.au>
	Subject: FW: Solution to a pumpkin contest with kids and adults

	So how do you stop a guy from growing pumpkins for his
relatives?
	For many years now this guy has won and a family member comes
	second and third most of the time. He comes from a better
pumpkin
	growing state, and takes our prizes every year.

	He has pretty well ruined our competition.

	I wouldn't mind so much if they played the game honestly!

	Tony Hickman
	Adelaide Australia
	>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


	<<  wasn't moving with the times.......so my buddy
	 and i decided to introduce a real weigh- off........then

	 we had the opposite kind of thing happen at "our" contest at
the
	 fair......we had two catagories....junior and adult.....we
offered $$100
	 for the adult division and $$75 for the junior......well the
adults weighed
	 111 and the junior 321.....something just didn't seem
right....and the the
	 kid couldn't figure why he didn't take top money..and he was
right
	 .......so now we do cash prizes to 15th place heavy takes
it....age mean
	 nothing until we see the need.......sounds like you in the
position to
	 educate the fair of the new trend....of
	 AG..................congrats......MB
	  >>

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	Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 21:15:56 EDT
	From: GBPUMPKIN@aol.com
	Subject: Blossom End Up Estimating Help Needed

	I have never had one like this, does anyone have experience with
this type?
	How do they run compared to the OTT method?  I had a Blossom End
Down in 93
	that ran heaver than the OTT chart but did not have as big of
ribs as this
	one.  This looks like a big Tractor Tire that fell over, it has
12 Ribs up to
	18" wide.  Looks like my 617 that is in Don's book but on it's
back.

	George
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	Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 20:22:40 -0500
	From: carlson@sanasys.com
	Subject: Joseph Derting

	Joseph, 
	I may have missed the explanation early on, I don't always get
to read
	all the messages before my husband deletes them....but where in
the
	world is Tualatin?  

	Beth Carlson
	Clinton, Iowa
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	Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 21:48:33 EDT
	From: Pumkinguy@aol.com
	Subject: Re: FW: Solution to a pumpkin contest with kids and
adults

	In a message dated 9/8/98 9:16:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
	shickam@saugov.sa.gov.au writes:

	<< 
	 So how do you stop a guy from growing pumpkins for his
relatives?
	 For many years now this guy has won and a family member comes
	 second and third most of the time. He comes from a better
pumpkin
	 growing state, and takes our prizes every year.
	 
	 He has pretty well ruined our competition.
	 
	 I wouldn't mind so much if they played the game honestly!
	 
	 Tony Hickman
	 Adelaide A >>
	Tony,
	   Put in a rule, one cash prize per family. If there is still a
problem, you
	may have to confront him.
	                           Wayne
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	Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 19:15:54 -0800
	From: brocfarm@pacific.pacific.net (brocfarm)
	Subject: Re: FW: Solution to a pumpkin contest with kids and
adults

	> I wouldn't mind so much if they played the game honestly!
	>
	> Tony Hickman
	> Adelaide A >>
	>Tony,
	>   Put in a rule, one cash prize per family. If there is still
a problem, you
	>may have to confront him.
	>                           Wayne
	
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	Tony here in the states most our contests allow 2 pumpkins per
family and
	usually a pumpkin widow takes in the back up......but it is
generally
	accepted as the "tag team" share the chores around the
place....and the
	patch,,,,it all depends on the size of the weigh -off,,,YOU CAN
BEAT THIS
	GUY!,,,,have you mulched your patch??.This seem to cool the soil
....seems
	that you have had some good seed down under have you ever
planted your own
	seed from these good crosses........??? sometimes that
helps.....talk to us
	we can psyche out this dude and challenge........brock


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	Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 22:15:03 EDT
	From: Lubadub@aol.com
	Subject: Re: FW: Solution to a pumpkin contest with kids and
adults

	Tony:

	Why not limit your contest to individuals residing in your state
or growing in
	your state. That would totally eliminate him. Or charge a large
fee for out-
	of-staters. Or tell him he had to preregister. Or just tell him
to g-t-h. 

	Marv
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	Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 21:44:48 -0500
	From: carlson@sanasys.com
	Subject: Re: daily growth

	Troy
	I've often wondered about what happens when cir. measurements
stop after
	lets say 60 days.Now you said the inside thickens and the seeds
mature.
	I'll agree the seeds will mature better when the pumpkin stays
on the
	vine longer but what or how do you base your statement that the
inside
	thickens? anyone have an opinion on what happens those 2 to 3
long weeks
	of waiting till show time!!!does everyone continue to water?
fertilize?



	troy wrote:
	> 
	> Rocky;
	> 
	> Your pumpkin will stop growing in circ but it will grow
thicker and the
	> seeds will mature so it is a good idea to leave the pumpkin on
the vine as
	> long as possibe. You should treat the whole pumpkin and stem
with a
	> fungicide. Also check the stem where it attaches to the vine
and see if it
	> has torn off. This usually happens around 100" in circ.
	> 
	> Troy
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	Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 22:50:25 -0400
	From: "rocky.r" <rocky.r@cyber-quest.com>
	Subject: Re: FW: Solution to a pumpkin contest with kids and
adults

	Lubadub@aol.com wrote:
	> 
	> Tony:
	> 
	> Why not limit your contest to individuals residing in your
state or growing in
	> your state. That would totally eliminate him. Or charge a
large fee for out-
	> of-staters. Or tell him he had to preregister. Or just tell
him to g-t-h.
	> 
	> Marv
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	I like the last option Marv!! 
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	Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 22:52:38 -0400
	From: "rocky.r" <rocky.r@cyber-quest.com>
	Subject: Re: daily growth

	carlson@sanasys.com wrote:
	> 
	> Troy
	> I've often wondered about what happens when cir. measurements
stop after
	> lets say 60 days.Now you said the inside thickens and the
seeds mature.
	> I'll agree the seeds will mature better when the pumpkin stays
on the
	> vine longer but what or how do you base your statement that
the inside
	> thickens? anyone have an opinion on what happens those 2 to 3
long weeks
	> of waiting till show time!!!does everyone continue to water?
fertilize?
	> 
	> troy wrote:
	> >
	> > Rocky;
	> >
	> > Your pumpkin will stop growing in circ but it will grow
thicker and the
	> > seeds will mature so it is a good idea to leave the pumpkin
on the vine as
	> > long as possibe. You should treat the whole pumpkin and stem
with a
	> > fungicide. Also check the stem where it attaches to the vine
and see if it
	> > has torn off. This usually happens around 100" in circ.
	> >
	> > Troy
	> > 

	I know the next three weeks will be very big onthe stock market
for
	Anheiser Busch because of all the bud I am drinking while
sitting out by
	my patch like Linus in that old Charlie Brown classic... 

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	ICQ: 1815098
	website: http://home.cyber-quest.com/rocky.r

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	Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 20:33:56 -0700
	From: "Mike Stephenson" <mike@beaconmortgage.com>
	Subject: RE: Solution to a pumpkin contest with kids and adults

	> For many years now this guy has won and a family member comes
	> second and third most of the time. He comes from a better
pumpkin
	> growing state, and takes our prizes every year.
	>
	> He has pretty well ruined our competition.

	For many years my company sponsored an outdoor Christmas
lighting contest.
	We had a similar problem with certain deep pocketed (install a
new
	electrically panel just to be able to put out more lights!),
creative people
	being the 1,2,3 winners each year. We solved the problem by
creating an
	category we called the "Masters Division". Anyone who finished
in the first,
	second and/or third positions in the last five years had to
compete only
	against other master winners. Prizes for master winners and new
winners were
	awarded. Our entries increased dramatically once the new
division was
	created as rookies no longer had to compete head-to-head with
the "heavy
	hitters" and thus felt they had a shot at being a winner. The
concept should
	work at a weigh-off
	as well.

	Mike in Oregon


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	Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 00:53:07 EDT
	From: Orion910@aol.com
	Subject: Scar seeds

	Hi everyone,
	Well I am not dead from pumpkin crack depression and the seeds
from Scar are
	dry.  Everyone who was interested in seeds from this early
season moose feel
	free to send me a bubble envelope with your address on it and I
will stuff a
	few seeds from Scar in it.  My address is:
	Brett Hester
	8879 S. Good Lane
	Canby, Oregon  97013

	There were roughly 350 good viable seeds in Scar Who Weighed in
at #608 pounds
	in 43 days.  As a foot note however, Wart weighed in at #662
pounds after only
	39 days.  If I can keep one from cracking, I may get a big one
someday.  Wart
	is still hanging around in great shape after being off the vine
for about 3
	weeks now.  Only six pumpkins remain in the patch now over 400
pounds, so
	needless to say I am looking forward to 1999.

	Good Luck,
	Brett  The Pumpkinguru  Hester
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	Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 01:49:06 EDT
	From: FuNGii1@aol.com
	Subject: Re: Scar seeds

	does it have to be a bubble envelope or can it be a reg, i will
alrady place
	the stamps on it though
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