From: utah blaine <utahblaine@webtv.net> i have right now a atlantic giant growing in my garden n seattle !! it's the size of a SOFTBALL TODAY il keep ya posted and thanks a zillion ps any body know how to do this with cucumbers....? havng a huge troublesome with bees not finding the flowers..? er whatever so i wanna see if anyone knows how to do this by hand..? Go to Genetics for Seed Savers at: http://www.anet-chi.com/~manytimes/page63.htm Follow the index to the FAQ where the first question is How do I pollinate by hand? I believe the URL is http://www.anet-chi.com/~manytimes/seedsav6.htm