I guess the Server was down for 5 hours or more. Take a look at this link for rooting propagation. Have fun.... http://telework.ucdavis.edu/root/pcsearch.htm -- Duncan McAlpine, Federal Way, WA Why buy plants when you can grow them yourself.....? http://www.eskimo.com/~mcalpin/ http://www.eskimo.com/~mcalpin/pumkin.html