Re: Ribes + Polygonatum

Dear Marc:
  I shouldn't be surprised that we know many of the same people.  I have
been corresponding with Peter for years - he has even come to visit me - but
I can't remember if he ever mentioned you or not.
  I have had Ribes for a long time and spent a year working at the NCGR,
during which time I evaluated many of the cultivars there.  I was able to
get some of the new gooseberry "Jahn's Prairie" and am very impressed with
it.  Oddly, I had a numbered selection from the collection for several years
that was very similar to Jahn's Prairie and was surprised to find it was a
pure American species.  The fruit is large, red, sweet, though not highly
flavored, and the plant is virtually thornless and the healthiest Ribes I've
seen. 
  One of my other favorites is the Ribes odoratum cultivar "Crandall" which
I helped re-introduce into commerce.  It's one of the best edible landscape
plants I know of. 
  Have you come in contact with Clive Simms in England yet?  He has access
to many fine Ribes there.  I did a couple of magazine articles out of
information he sent me on one of the last giant gooseberry contests, at
Tunbridge Wells.  Fascinating that people could get so excited over growing
giant gooseberries.
  Since you are a member of the TIRA I assume you know Alex Eppler.
  Keep in touch.  It's always nice to find others with similar interests.
-Lon
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>From: Greta Crauwels Vertalingen <gctranslations@ibm.net>
>To: propagation@mallorn.com
>Subject: Re: Ribes + Polygonatum
>Date: Wed, May 26, 1999, 1:24 PM
>

>Lon,
>
>Thanks a lot for your good information.
>This year I obtained indeed some material from the NCGR and I exchanged some
>gooseberry varieties with Ed Mashburn. (the Belgian ministry of agriculture found
>it difficult to believe that 'a private person' obtained a USDA permission to
>export Ribes species to the USDA. Unfortunately Ed will have to wait three years
>before the cultivars are released to him. The ones I obtained from him seem to
>accept the Belgian soil and climate (for now).
>
>I also happen to know Peter Bauwens. We are -together with some other people-
>working on a small book about all type off small fruit and their suitability for
>ecological culture.(unfortunately it will be in Dutch). Peter has a small nursery
>where he grows all type of edible plants.
>Peter and I are also TIRA members...
>
>My gooseberry collection counts 53 cultivars - for the time being - not counting
>the cuttings that I planted last autumn and winter.
>
>Your mail was most revealing to by the fact that I was not aware of Kim Hummer
>being a lady. I will have to make up for my ignorance in future correspondence
>with her.
>
> I did not have any Swedish contact yet, so i will contact Ake in the next couple
>of days.
>
>Thanks a lot for your information and I will certainly check out your site.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Marc Geens
>
>"Lon J. Rombough" wrote:
>
>> Dear Marc:
>>   You might want to save all the ungerminated seed and stratify it again.  I
>> found that a number of lots of seed that I handled didn't all germinate the
>> first time.  In some cases, some seed didn't germinate until it had been
>> stratified at least three times.  I've had seed that came up three years
>> after it was planted.  Also, some seeds need to be scarified - treated with
>> acid or otherwise have the seed coat broken down some.
>>   There is a man right there in Belgium, Peter Bauwens, "Peter Bauwens"
>> <p.bauwens@ping.be> who has a very extensive collection of Ribes varieties.
>> Also, if you want to try species, you should contact the National Clonal
>> Germplasm Repository in Corvallis, Oregon.  That is where the U.S.
>> collection of Ribes is kept.  I worked there for a year, which is where I
>> got most of my practice germinating Ribes seed.  The curator is "Kim Hummer"
>> <hummerk@bcc.orst.edu>  She will probably be glad to help, especially if you
>> have any varieties or species that are needed in the collection and would
>> like to trade.  There is no cost, either. If you want to see what the
>> collection there is like, go to my web site and find the link the California
>> Rare Fruit Growers (CRFG) and look for the link to the NCGR in that web
>> site.  The NCGR has a complete online catalog.
>>   I would also be glad to put you in touch with Ribes breeders elsewhere, if
>> you like.  For example, there is a man in Sweden who has done some private
>> breeding of Ribes. "Ake Truedsson" <Ake.Truedsson@CEMENTA.scancem.com>  has
>> introduced White Giant white currant, through the Balsgard Breeding
>> Institute.
>>   Also on my web site you will find a link for NAFEX, and on that site is a
>> link to a man with a very large collection of Ribes, Mr. Ed Mashburn.
>>   There are more, but this is probably all you want for now.
>> -Lon Rombough
>> Grapes, unusual fruits, writing, more, at http://www.hevanet.com/lonrom
>>
>> ----------
>> >From: Greta Crauwels Vertalingen <gctranslations@ibm.net>
>> >To: propagation@mallorn.com
>> >Subject: Re: Ribes + Polygonatum
>> >Date: Tue, May 25, 1999, 12:51 PM
>> >
>>
>> >Dear Lon,
>> >
>> >Thank you for your reply from early April. I think I never replied to your
>> >reaction, so please apologize for this.
>> >I am growing only five species of Ribes (for the time being). I do possess a
>> >lot of cultivars and my main interest is in Ribes uva-crispa/grossularia.
>> >Till today I found that only about 30% of the seed are germinating after a
>> >winter of stratification. So I would like to increase this rate as I am
>> >experimenting with hybridizing gooseberry cultivars and every seed has its
>> >potential...
>> >Any good suggestion on obtaining seed from Ribes species is also welcome.
>> >
>> >Thanks and regards
>> >
>> >Marc Geens (Belgium).
>> >
>> >
>> >"Lon J. Rombough" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I've germinated a number of Ribes species.  Are there particular ones you
>> >> are interested in?  What species do you have?
>> >> -Lon Rombough
>> >> Grapes, unusual fruits, writing, more, at http://www.hevanet.com/lonrom
>> >>
>> >> ----------
>> >> >From: Greta Crauwels Vertalingen <gctranslations@ibm.net>
>> >> >To: Propagationlist <propagation@mallorn.com>
>> >> >Subject: Ribes + Polygonatum
>> >> >Date: Tue, Apr 20, 1999, 12:26 PM
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> >Hi all,
>> >> >
>> >> >Gradually I start to built up a collection of Ribes shrubs and
>> >> >Polygonatum plants.
>> >> >Does anybody of you have experiences with sowing species/cultivars of
>> >> >these genera?
>> >> >Any experiences/thricks applied are welcome.
>> >> >I noticed that self sown seeds are often coming up reasonably well in my
>> >> >garden , but dry stored seeds often cause trouble...
>> >> >Thanks for any advise you have
>> >>
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